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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
UNESCO - Sweden
https://levandekulturarv.se/forteckningen/element/demoscenen
Congratz.
Additionally, I urge (some) people to open up and check the "Historik:" tab on the linked page. Perhaps it helps clear some things up for them. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
and this will affect the Demoscene. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11523 |
Very important Unesco stuff right there |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007 Posts: 526 |
Congrats to Sweden, joining the club, which already has Finland, Germany, Poland and The Netherlands.
And, contrary to some cynical views, this actually helps with some things, organizing parties and publishing books about the demoscene for example ;) There is absolutely nothing negative that I can imagine coming from this, so let's enjoy it! ;) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
Except more citogenesis of "cracking scene -> demoscene". =) |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
Shame on literally EVERY demoscene research for not complying with Krill’s wishes. |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006 Posts: 363 |
Quoting KrillExcept more citogenesis of "cracking scene -> demoscene". =)
I could come with some more examples, but i don't feel like writing elaborates on something such innocent compared to other piles of idiocy growing rapidly in the world right now.
Leave the scene for sceners. UNESCO go fuck yourself! |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
OPS |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
Quoting 4gentE OPS Sure, sure.
But let me repeat it here for the (broken) record, again, since you opted to attack twice in a row. =)
The early scene was just The scene, which did everything, then split up at some point.
Claiming the early scene was the cracking scene (and only that) is wrong, imho.
Also i'm pretty sure i'm not alone with that stance, and this place here is called what it is for a reason. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11523 |
This "crack intros turned into demos" is just too much of a nice narrative to drop it. Just let it go. Who cares :) |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
@Krill:
Cool. I love you man. Thank you for another “fancy word of the day”. Today it’s “citogenesis”. The OPS steps got tumbled a bit, tho. Now, I’m waiting for the execution of OPS pseudocode line 80. I sense a shy call to aid, a dogwhistle if you don’t mind me using a fancy word myself. We could open a bet on who comes to serve line 80.
And whaadya know. Someone already beat me to it. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
Quoting chatGPZThis "crack intros turned into demos" is just too much of a nice narrative to drop it. Just let it go. Who cares :) Ah, no worries, people being wrong on the internet is nothing i lose any sleep about. =) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
Quoting 4gentEThank you for another “fancy word of the day”. Today it’s “citogenesis”. Yes, there are more where it comes from! It's a reference to

btw. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
Riiiight. Intellectual anti-intellectualism. Ace. |
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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010 Posts: 152 |
I wonder if we should also UNESCO World Heritagize the eternal flamewar between Krill and 4gentE? |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007 Posts: 526 |
Quoting KrillExcept more citogenesis of "cracking scene -> demoscene". =)
Thank god noone for whom this unesco thing is useful or important gives a fuck... |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002 Posts: 750 |
4gentE were you in the scene in the 1970s? It's kind of a shame Jerry isn't alive anymore, he certainly was. He would probably set you straight too about that. Or Derbyshire Ram, also RIP.
What is the point? Do you just want to be right? Some weird arrogant thing you keep pushing, that's alternative facts.
Remember what you do reflects on your group, and you don't paint a nice picture for me tbh. I looked up to Triad for most of my life, but you are making me not want to anymore. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007 Posts: 526 |
Fungus, how that has anything to do with the UNESCO thing? How does that justify trashing the whole idea?
You can have different opinions about the scene origins, and still appreciate what this thing is.
"and this will affect the Demoscene."
Of course not - obvously stupid csdb discussions will ;) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
Quoting wacekhow that has anything to do with the UNESCO thing? It seems to refer to the addendum at the end of the original post and the sidetrack it spawned, with no assertion regarding the UNESCO award itself.
Quoting wacek"and this will affect the Demoscene."
Of course not - obvously stupid csdb discussions will ;) Perhaps this Pouët thread just created by yours truly, and without remotely-related misguided personal hate-boner fuelled apropos insinuations in its original post, will result in a more civilised discussion of the benefits you alluded to. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
One thing. Speaking of “more civilised discussion” as mentioned by Krill.
After I relayed the UNESCO - Sweden news and congratulated in the initial post, the first two responders were Krill and Groepaz. Krill wrote, and I quote: “and this will affect the Demoscene.” and Groepaz wrote, and I quote: “Very important Unesco stuff right there”. These are first responses. Are these perhaps the examples of the said “more civilised discussion”? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11523 |
You somehow missed to mention the OP |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009 Posts: 310 |
offf... all is normal inn here I see... Why all the negativety all the time? *Lets create and have fun... Revision is comming up, a great organized party and a place to meet friends and have a super joyfull time. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
@Groepaz:
Look, the first 2 responses emanated some kind of slightly disinterested disdain for the whole UNESCO thing. At least that’s how they seemed to me. Could be I misread them, but if so, I can see I’m not the only one.
If I got it right, what Wacek asked was : why this disrespect for this UNESCO thing? A simple question. There has to be some kind of reason, right?
Now, about the sidetrack. From the top of this thread to the bottom, I made zero claims about the origins of the demoscene. Zero. As in 0. Zilch. Nada. So I really have a hard time understanding why some people keep making their own claims about it, then continue to argue with me for some reason. It would seem that they should be arguing with the author of the article over at “The national website of the UNESCO Convention for the Safeguarding of the Intangible Cultural Heritage in Sweden” instead. Don’t you think so? |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 3098 |
Quoting 4gentEwhy this disrespect for this UNESCO thing? A simple question. There has to be some kind of reason, right? Of course.
Quoting 4gentEFrom the top of this thread to the bottom, I made zero claims about the origins of the demoscene. The sentence after "additionally" was very clearly flamebait, and you know that. It does imply your stance on the origin question. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002 Posts: 750 |
IMO this is just trolling.
Close this thread as useless. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002 Posts: 750 |
Quote: Fungus, how that has anything to do with the UNESCO thing? How does that justify trashing the whole idea?
You can have different opinions about the scene origins, and still appreciate what this thing is.
"and this will affect the Demoscene."
Of course not - obvously stupid csdb discussions will ;)
What does the cultural/political agenda of the United Nations have to do with the scene? Nothing, that's what. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021 Posts: 332 |
Quote:Cultural/political agenda of the United Nations
OMFG. Indeed, close the thread. |