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2005-12-27 21:47
The Overkiller
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Richard and the insanity about Dj Rave

It's really needed to create 3 .. THREE !!! Profiles about this DJ Rave:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=12127
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=8317
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=8419

C'mon !!!!!!!!!!!
2005-12-27 22:02
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: It's really needed to create 3 .. THREE !!! Profiles about this DJ Rave:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=12127
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=8317
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=8419

C'mon !!!!!!!!!!!


Looks like done by mistake, looking at the adding date.

Richard, please union the entries. I will unlock the one that is locked
2005-12-28 12:15
The Overkiller
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I deleted the 12127 entry, totally useless....
2005-12-28 12:34
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
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I hace sent him email asking to fix it.
2005-12-29 08:23
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
...and now all three of them are gone, along with the fake group bronze? :)
2005-12-29 08:44
Shake

Posts: 133
and what happened to Da Laxatives? about 15 entries if i recall correctly
way to goooo
something's really wrong here lately, i hope the admins will give attention to the trusted user rights.
Before csdb v2
2005-12-29 09:03
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925
You'll also notice that Sickness, a fake group Richard added the other day is gone. Maybe it has something to do with his release "STOP!!" he added and my comment (which is all deleted now also):

Submitted by Moloch on 27 December 2005
If you have a problem with the way things are happening... please leave. The sort of things you talk about in your scrolltext have always happened in the scene - it's not new! The scene isn't some cudely lil puppy dog.

Delete entries from CSDb? This is a scene database and all entries should remain. If the adminstration decides to start deleting entries here and there then CSDb will die.

You have the balls to call for people to stop doing lamer label releases? Just today you created your SIXTH lamer label group entry on CSDb (Fortress, Bronze, Lap Dancers, Da Laxatives, "German Destiny" [now deleted] and now Sickness).
2005-12-29 09:05
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Hey, it just proves that everyone can indeed change scene history! >>You can do it if you really want...<< (sings along) =)

But jokes aside, the fact people are (again) deleting entries at will really makes my motivation crumble.

There's just this one weekend of continuous work on CSDb involved to make it better. Please, Perff, pick up the numerous suggestions for a better system and do something about it.
2005-12-29 09:21
CyberBrain
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"STOP!!!" was deleted by richard himself. I guess that is allright
2005-12-29 09:45
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
@Moloch: you forgot about Blazon aswell.. Can anyone mail me that Stop release?
2005-12-29 11:50
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
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Here you go:

http://www.ntscene.com/richard/STOP.d64
2005-12-29 12:14
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
"This is entertainment/ This is fun"

thanx moloch!
2005-12-29 18:55
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
The truth revealed from me:

Yes I admit to what I have done. I done loads of silly fake releases in the past - mainly of my work. I was behind the groups Da Laxatives, Lap Dancers, Fortress(Someone passed me this label), Bronze, and Sickness (as Moloch mentioned). Makes me ask myself - Why am I doing this? Well, for fun of course.

What I type in on the system / CSDB I am pretending to take things seriously, but when I actually look at some of the stuff people done to my releases i.e. the +21 trainer of Balloonacy by Urine (How the hell they do that?), I was in a laughing fit. This actually kept me entertained. What made me laugh even more is that the trainer asking for a smaller balloon, skip intro 1 (Which is actually the Freeload tape loader), Skip intro 2 (The pic display part of freeload), Skip intro 3, kill Richard's annoying music, etc ... bla, bla, bla. Well, inside myself, I'm not really taking this thing too seriously. It was just an act like in a soap opera - trying to get a lot of attention. Which seems to have happened.

That demo which I did on Tuesday evening was a bit of fun, to see how many people react. Yeah, I know it was just plain stupid, but I doubt anyone would care though. It is the case that I like a lot of attention, so that is why I have been acting like a real prick on CSDB & elsewhere.

Second thing I want to mention is. I am glad that I am still in the scene. Especially when it comes to supporting the demo groups which I'm in, and also help support uploading newer releases. (Which of course is better than nothing).

If you wish me to stop being a major prick on the CSDB, releasing fake stuff & all that (Because I do it for fun) then fair enough. PM me, and stuff like that and I'll stop.
2005-12-29 18:56
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
<same message posted twice, so I deleted this one>
2005-12-30 08:11
Shake

Posts: 133
release what you like, don't stop because somebody wants to.. unless there are some reaaaaaly valid reasons. Crap entries so what.

but one question left: have you deleted the fakelabel entries yourself? And can the admins restore that/identify the user. This kind of abuse destroys invested time and energy in this database :(
2005-12-30 08:23
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925
It's abuse when people delete their own entries? Huh?
2005-12-30 08:51
Shake

Posts: 133
no legit since it's your own stuff, still quite lame if you release it and now walk away from it.
what if some triad member decides to delete all the stuff, or hotline, talent etc.
butbutbutbut let's not argue about that, pointless theoretical blahblah :]

rephrase...my question if he did... or someone else (fucking around with entries) out of curiousity so we know it has no sence to re-add or complete profiles from these groups.


2005-12-30 19:42
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
Yes, I deleted my fake labels myself, on Wednesday but according to a CSDB contact, a CSDB staff member probably can bring the stuff I deleted back.
2006-01-01 18:33
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
All what you do with this fights and delete actions and stuff (that's it to everybody in CSDb now, I am not calling just one person here) is making the life of the CSDb Staff and yourself harder. Won't take part in fights like that, or in discussions like who did not answer what email/PM from anybody. If I see an error or get told of an error, I will go and fix it.

Also, there is a "fun release" called "Mr Robot". Quoting the comments, (all sorts of languages) the entry can be deleted, yes?

By the end of 2005, this CSDb thing turned into a big joke by entries that are incomplete, people getting annoyed, fights in the forum and comments to releases that are either a) very stupid or b) not in English.

If you want to continue playing Kindergarten in 2006, be sure, I will no longer try to fix your erros since it seems not be appreciated at all except by a few people.

That's all.
Oh, and Happy New Year! :)
2006-01-01 18:39
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
If you're talking about Mr. Robot it's no fun-release & should absolutely not be deleted. TWR was asking in Swedish about a replaced screenshot, I have no idea what the others are rambling about in their comments though...
2006-01-01 18:40
Nafcom

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Posts: 588
Quote: If you're talking about Mr. Robot it's no fun-release & should absolutely not be deleted. TWR was asking in Swedish about a replaced screenshot, I have no idea what the others are rambling about in their comments though...

Guys, please remove either the comments or translate them into English
There is an English only rule in CSDb.
2006-01-01 22:16
Moloch

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Welcome aboard Nazi Admin... it seems Macgyver is reborn in Nafcom?

2006-01-02 05:42
Nafcom

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Quote: Welcome aboard Nazi Admin... it seems Macgyver is reborn in Nafcom?



No, it just happens too often that people do not keep this rule lately. A lot of people rack in the forum about "delete here, delete there" and crap. I think it should all a bit stop

and you know what this "Nazi" comment made you now to my ignore list. welcome.

Disagreeing with me, fine, then people go and mess up CSDb also in 2006! But calling me a Nazi is enough!

I quit.
2006-01-02 20:34
Tch
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Relax Nafcom..

I do appreciate that you tried to keep this place a bit less of a mess. 8)
Please keep trying..

But many of us like to break the rules.
You ought to know this. ;)
2006-01-03 00:29
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925
ADIOS! Goodbye.

etc.
2006-01-03 08:30
Luca

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178
Uh... I guessed, spreading your words in a language that everybody can understand would be the less Nazier thing to do ever.
Am I wrong? :O
2006-01-03 10:20
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: Relax Nafcom..

I do appreciate that you tried to keep this place a bit less of a mess. 8)
Please keep trying..

But many of us like to break the rules.
You ought to know this. ;)


------- Forwarded message -------
From: "Klaus Andersen" <perff[at]c64scene.net>
To: "Joerg Droege" <joerg-droege[at]web.de>
Subject: Re: As sent as PM on CSDb!
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:02:18 +0100

> Hello Klaus,
> please take away this super maintainer permissions from my account, I no
> longer want them, thank you

Priviliges removed. :(

/Klaus
2006-01-03 11:04
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
good. such priveliges would be better to give to people with knowledge who contribute to csdb like zyron,tlr or iopop, and not just any random muppet
2006-01-03 11:43
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Insulting is all some people can. It's enough
2006-01-03 14:40
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
You shouldn't use the term Nazi too easily, Moloch, we the Krauts are usually deeply insulted by it. And besides, using such a strong term in that context is everything but justified, especially considered that Nafcom did a good job on CSDb here, on the whole.

I wouldn't mind having a few more superadmins, by the way. Zyron, Iopop, tlr come to mind, they did a helluva job adding quality entries lately.
2006-01-03 20:18
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925
If someone gives up something, anything, they can't blame others for that action. Nafcom gave up his access because he is a baby and can't take the heat.

I lived in Germany for eight years... and people who try to wipe away history will only do themselves harm, because they will repeat those nasty deeds again.
2006-01-04 07:55
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
OK, this will be my last statement about this issue.

If I see no sense in supporting/doing anything anymore, I stop it and do something instead that I find more of worth to do :)

Of course, eventhough it says "message ignored" here, I am pretty much sure, it was nothing nice.

Thank you to Steppe for his kind words :)

Well, I am sure that some think I am a baby or whatever, but hey, if CSDb is supposed to be lead and messed up by assholes now, let them do, but I am not the one wasting my time for this anymore.

I don't give a a damn for the next near future and concentrate on other stuff.

Thank you.



2006-01-04 08:14
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
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Amazing!

Greetings to A, B and C!
2006-01-04 08:40
The Overkiller
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Quote: Amazing!

Greetings to A, B and C!


?????
2006-01-04 09:45
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Quote: OK, this will be my last statement about this issue.

If I see no sense in supporting/doing anything anymore, I stop it and do something instead that I find more of worth to do :)

Of course, eventhough it says "message ignored" here, I am pretty much sure, it was nothing nice.

Thank you to Steppe for his kind words :)

Well, I am sure that some think I am a baby or whatever, but hey, if CSDb is supposed to be lead and messed up by assholes now, let them do, but I am not the one wasting my time for this anymore.

I don't give a a damn for the next near future and concentrate on other stuff.

Thank you.





Why bother?

Mac Gyver were the reason why people like me dont bother uploading files to CSDB anymore.

Slarti, Stash, Wanderer and the followers is the reason why people like me step out of using the forums.

Wonder what the next thing is? Things happends with the data about groups and members - well we just loose the interest updating this.

Go think about the damage before doing such things. I wont bother if you do, but dont let the others who got a hope for this place be the victims.

2006-01-04 10:43
V-12

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206
I agree... Better to spend the power for doing something productive......
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