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Wanderer
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How do you judge 2006 releases
Here's something I've been pondering.
When the clock strikes midnight, how will the first releases of 2006 be calculated? For example Australia releases uploaded at 00:01 on January 1, 2006 would be our Saturday, December 31, 2005
Should this go by the CSDB time zone as per entry creation time/date or per the time zone of the creator's country?
It's not a big deal I know, but I understand there is a bit of a race for the first demos of the year. How should they be calculated? Even NTSC demos come from different time zones.
My opinion is it should go by the time zone of the demo creator. Thoughts?
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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First release cracks will be going by the time of the countries where the FTP sites reside. The Digital Dungeon (ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64) and Gangsta's Paradise (ftp://c64.rulez.org/pub/c64).
So basically Euro time is respected here.
In the past it was American time, as the USA boards were the medium used.
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Wanderer
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So if I had a crack to upload I could do so tomorrow (Friday, American time) on an FTP site in Europe and it would be considered a 2006 crack??
That seems kind of like cheating if you're from the USA. :)
I guess I was asking more less for CSDB because FTP sites don't show the uploader and the time/date stamp isn't shown unless you search the properties.
What would you say if a North American uploaded it on a Friday to your site on a Saturday? Is that valid?
(No I don't have a crack, but I am curious how people will work this out) |
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Oswald
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Wanderer, if I were you I would sink in shame, instead of posting like nothing have happened. You're not welcome here. |
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Wanderer
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Quote: Wanderer, if I were you I would sink in shame, instead of posting like nothing have happened. You're not welcome here.
LDA IGNORELIST
CLC
ADC #$01
STA IGNORELIST
Thank you Jazzcat. If anyone else has any ON TOPIC responses, please leave them :)
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Style
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Quote: LDA IGNORELIST
CLC
ADC #$01
STA IGNORELIST
Thank you Jazzcat. If anyone else has any ON TOPIC responses, please leave them :)
INC IGNORELIST
dickhead.... now I see why your demos are crap.
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Wanderer
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There are already a handful of anti-Wanderer threads to pursue. I'm trying to have a serious discussion here and I will continue to post threads that contribute.
So to those who don't care for me, please decide here and now:
a) to join in, on topic
b) to ignore it entirely (it's soooo easy)
c) turn it into another 200 reply heated argument that will end when people finally demand everybody involved stops.
I'm not going anywhere... so choose wisely because I think everybody is tired of the flaming.
Thanks
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CyberBrain
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I would say that in CSDb it's the time of the country where it's released that counts. If i add an old release i've found somewhere, i enter the date that the demo states as the release-date, i don't convert it to central european time first, and then enter that date. |
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Jazzcat
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Also something to keep in mind is that VANDALISM NEWS and the chart "The List" (since 1991) doesn't include CSDB as the main reference medium for first releases.
The problem of time-delays between countries is usually not that big, as these days most of the first releases come from Europe as opposed to say the USA and Australia.
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Yodelking
Registered: Apr 2002
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Haha! I never thought about this... I made a "First in 89" demo 16 years ago. Maybe I wasn't first after all... I didn't think about timezones. And what does count? I counted when it was saved on my disk, and not the day my snail-mail contacts got the demo. |
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Jazzcat
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"World First" is normally the terminology used for demos and "first releases" is used in the cracking scene.
Teehee ;) |
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Oswald
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Wanderer, your acts has consequences learn to live with them. Guess how many ppl are sorry for you since you cant have a serious discussion. |
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Wanderer
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Quote: Wanderer, your acts has consequences learn to live with them. Guess how many ppl are sorry for you since you cant have a serious discussion.
Jazzcat, that's unfortunate to hear because it means by mid-afternoon tomorrow is when all of the North American cracks/demos would need to be uploaded. However as Vandalism news is Euro, it makes sense and there are not a lot of North American releases.
Thanks for enlightening me on how it works, maybe I have a reason for asking or maybe it's just coincidence. :D
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Tch
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Thank God for North EAST Importers.
North WEST would be in quite the advantage. ;) |
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Zyron
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Judging 2006 releases isn't an easy task. At first it takes quite a lot of time just looking through them all the first time, and to judge them correctly you must watch them at least 2 or 3 times. After that judgement day has arrived & all the 2006 releases will hopefully be judged fairly? |
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Richard
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Lets see who will get first release on CSDB for 2006. I know it wont be me for certain ;) |
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stash
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muhahahahha first release on a forum makes me laugh :)
i remember the days when the firsties came to the boards but i guess now with the internet every one can do a firstie on a forum and it´s seems like now wanderer have a chance to actualy do a firstie
congratulations jerk
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Krill
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I prefer timeless productions, and i give a shit about them being first releases or not. |
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AMB
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Word Krill...
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SECRET MAN
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We will never have first releases.Most of the the releases
are self-productions.But we will always have new sid-musics and new demos.
Look at these "Software Manager Prv".I got this Prv. from
Markus Schneider (Diflex-Ex Level99),but as no software firm wanted to pay for it,all the coders stopped.He just wanted to give this game an nice music,but it was too late.
No money - No Production
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Krill
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But there will still be new games, and some of them will even have good quality. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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First releases and crackers responsibility.
There will be new games, some that need to be paid for and others that won't. A cracker shouldn't care. As long as there is something to crack.
Where the game is distributed, protected or not, quality or non-quality - release - is totally up to the game development crew. As far as crackers obtaining games, public domain is of course easier, but so is ordering a game, especially for grown adults ;) It's not like we're kids with school money only now. ;)
Personally I hope there will be MORE games "sold" commercially (like what Protovision does) and ALL games containing cracking protection.
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Oswald
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yeah lets hope someone does us games to crack :D |
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SECRET MAN
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Games from Peru or Venezuela |
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madcrow
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Not many releases to judge yet... Still, maybe the pace will pick up a bit.
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