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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
BBS entries
A request for CSDB would be to include Bulletin Boards as an entry. These BBS'es can be assosciated to groups and in some cases actual productions, such as "war demos" or things from the old days such as buffers (1980s).
It is a real shame that the Boards are not represented here even though they played a major part in the scene, especially in the older days.
Wares Galore, Data shack, Data shack II, The Forum,
Prowl's Place, Terminal Obsession, The Fountain of Lamneth, The Home for the Addicted Pirate, Channel Zero, Dream Park,
Tunnel of Wares etc etc.
What do you think? |
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Total Chaos
Registered: Mar 2006
Posts: 74 |
As an old sysop/co-sysop I would love it ;)
/signs |
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253 |
Post old buffers at either Antidote or The Hidden (both c*base). It would give it a more genuine feeling imho.
antidote.hopto.org
the-hidden.hopto.org |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924 |
Total agreement from me... this topic was covered more than a year ago and everyone involved seemed to like it. Now would be nice to hear from Perff.
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
boards *must* be added to csdb! ;) |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1676 |
I remember this discussion, and I think the agreement was to add it as a new main-type, like sceners, groups, releases and events.
I must admit that I know very little about BBS's, so I got little idea of what type of information a BBS has, and how to build up the tables to contain this information.
I guess we need a bbs-table with a name, etc, but how many related tables are needed? I guess we need a sysop cross-table between bbs's and sceners, but what more? F.x. can a BBS have multiple phone-numbers, or only one?
Info please. :)
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Most boards on C64 had only one number. However this number sometimes changed, having the option for multiple number entry for historic reasons would be great.
You also need to have:
Sysop:
Co-Sysop(s):
Users: (all sceners who had an account on said BBS)
Host Group(s):
Host Magazine: (some disk mags had boards)
Trivia section can cover all other things like (whether is ran on UCBBS, C*Base, Ivory etc etc, whether it was 24 hours (most were), board speed: anywhere from 300 to 2400 baud and in some rare cases higher))
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Perff
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So to get a bit technical here is what is required of tables:
A main BBS-table with name, short name?, trivia, date when it was created and date when it was closed.
The following cross-tables:
- sysop (scener-table)
- co-sysop (scener-table)
- users (scener-table)
(these tables could be one with a type-field instead)
- host groups (group-table)
- mags...... hmm. Not sure about that one. Is this nessesary, and how to implement?
Anything else missing? Perhaps different types of boards, or..? |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Yup that sounds fine, magazines are not necessary as so few have boards assosciated to them - it is something that can be mentioned in the trivia section anyway.
The type of board can be awkward, I'm assuming you mean what program it used, like C*Base, UCBBS etc? (a modern comparison is a website and what script it used, html, perl, etc). If this is the case, I would think in the trivia section also.
Or do you mean by type of board if it is "legal" or "illegal" or "legal/illegal"? If so, then yes, that's a nice option. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
dont forget the phonenr(s) a bbs used, and obviously location (country) |
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Kenho
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 26 |
Dunno if it was custom to make bbs-intros in those times. it certanly was later on in the end of bbs's when i was calling boards that had pc/amiga content. So if that is so maby a reference to those. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Nah, not really BBS-intros, but now and then there would be a BBS-demo, but something that was rare and not so common.
Another item for the trivia section of the entry. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
I wasn't involved in the BBS-scene at all so I will mainly stay out of this discussion.
Just some 5 cents regarding the 2 above posts; I personally think it would be cool to have the possibility to connect a release like Warez Aquarium BBS-intro to the actual BBS WAQ. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Maybe have a general "assosciate file", for BBS related items such as advertisements in the form of demos or intros. Or for "buffers" etc. |
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Stan
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 187 |
Leave away the "co-sysops" imho. Too confusing in many cases, sometimes there were 10 people having co-sysop access or even more. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: Leave away the "co-sysops" imho. Too confusing in many cases, sometimes there were 10 people having co-sysop access or even more.
so because some boards had many cosysops, we should remove the info from history? I think not. |
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Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 187 |
Ok, include them. ;) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Enough info now Perff?
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1676 |
Think so. :)
Been busy, and is very tired right now, so can't really think right now. :) Will check it out tomorrow or something.
Nite.. zzZZzz |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Cool. Just post here if more info required. |
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Shokray
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 66 |
..and please don't forget to add a 'BBS Graphican' selection to the Credits-Dropdown lists. ;) |
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Fix
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 54 |
BBS entries..COOL !
Then I can add mine :-) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Quote: ..and please don't forget to add a 'BBS Graphican' selection to the Credits-Dropdown lists. ;)
Indeed. Very important to add this.
Perff, when will these features be implemented?
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253 |
Quote: Indeed. Very important to add this.
Perff, when will these features be implemented?
But would that credit the ones posting their gfx in the subs or just the ones who had their gfx implemented in the logon/off/menus of the board?
I mean, most phun things usually happened/happens in the CG-subs (like these days, when Jucke, Dino and Cmp have their spammingsessions at Antidote) why it would be wrong to not credit it. On the other hand, if everyone posting "gfx" should be credited, I guess a majority of all users could be credited as boardgraphicians. |
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253 |
Heh, that was my 64th post :-)
Anyways, what about buffers? I see no one fancied my idea of posting them on the existing CG-boards. Is there any way of uploading them here? |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476 |
on an almost unrelated note, i'd love to see dino, jucke and cmp to release their c/g in a pack or two. |
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253 |
Quote: on an almost unrelated note, i'd love to see dino, jucke and cmp to release their c/g in a pack or two.
Bordeaux uploaded a few good ones some time ago. DCMP also did some neat stuff. And more.. I dunno if there are any plans for a pack though. I guess you have to call, easy as that. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
I would say the BBS-graphician in relation to a "BBS"-entry should only be those painting graphics FOR the BBS. Those people making little piccies and things in the subs, whilst nice, is unrelated to direct BBS credits in my opinion.
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OEP
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60 |
I agree with Jazzcat. I think it should only be for the artist doing the major art for a bbs. I wish I still had all my screens. I drew many, many logon gfx for many, many boards.
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Shokray
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 66 |
Quote: I would say the BBS-graphician in relation to a "BBS"-entry should only be those painting graphics FOR the BBS. Those people making little piccies and things in the subs, whilst nice, is unrelated to direct BBS credits in my opinion.
agreed! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Perff, where are j00?? :)
One-Eyed-Pirate: Heyas! nice to see you here. Damn, really pity that you lost those screens, I have some buffers I kept from the first version of The Forum and also some from Down By Law. But these are relatively new boards (1988 onwards) compared to some of the ancient rulers.
So happy that the BBS is no longer ignored here as part of this database. \ö/ |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1676 |
I'm right here reading every single post. :)
All I need now is some hours spare time (not something I got often :( ) to start this up.
The plan is first to get the new tables set up, the edit-pages so one can create bbs-entries, and a page to show the info.
Then we take it from there. |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476 |
Quote: Bordeaux uploaded a few good ones some time ago. DCMP also did some neat stuff. And more.. I dunno if there are any plans for a pack though. I guess you have to call, easy as that.
that's what i'm doing, at least every 2nd-3rd day. i'm just too lazy to do captures all the time and separately keep the pics. =) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Quote: I'm right here reading every single post. :)
All I need now is some hours spare time (not something I got often :( ) to start this up.
The plan is first to get the new tables set up, the edit-pages so one can create bbs-entries, and a page to show the info.
Then we take it from there.
Any progress?
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1676 |
Not yet, but still on the todo-list. Have to wait untill I get enough spare time to do it. Hope to get that in about a month if not before. :) |
