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2006-09-16 21:06
Pitcher

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 61
Unknown Hardware

Hi, my mate maestro sent me some hardware today and looking at it it is a simple plug through connector for the User i/o port, its in a plastic box thats redish wood effect, has the words "dirk klaus schvl" on the top and has a red reset switch mounted on the side that is connected to the 'No.2' the 'A connections', it also has the word "lindy" printed on the board inside the cartridge.

Anyone know anything about it, or translate what it says on it???
2006-09-17 06:08
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
I tried to translate using Altavista's BABEL FISH and couldn't find any translations at all. Are you sure the name is correct? Maybe "dirk klaus schulz"? Perhaps you can take a picture of the board itself (both sides if the board is double printed)?
2006-09-17 07:59
Pitcher

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 61
No it does say "dirk klaus schvl" on it, there is some wear on the cartridge, dont know if there was ever a Z on the end???, will take some photos.
2006-09-18 08:48
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
More importantly, what are the components in it?
2006-09-18 09:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351
probably just that - a reset button :)
2006-09-18 18:55
Pitcher

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 61
Yes it just plugs into the user i/o post and has a slot on the back of it to plug another cartridge in to it, it all it has is a reset button wired to it.

I was just wondering why make just a reset cartridge and no software? and why use the i/o port? and not the usual cartridge port, and whats the point of being able to plug something else into it? and if anyone knows what it says on it : "dirk klaus schvl"
2006-09-19 01:07
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Because that lets you use a cartridge that doesn't have a reset button? Because the passthrough lets you connect a printer or rs-232 interface? Not a big mystery or anything.
2006-10-18 00:41
Lexi

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 11
"Lindy" translates into nothing because it´s no word. It´s the name of the company which produced it. Lindy is wellknown in germany for producing all types of adaptors and gender-changers, usb stuff and ps/2 adaptors. All types of cabling and plugs are made by Lindy.

Do you have a Photo of the thing?
2006-12-31 18:30
MiK
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Registered: Dec 2006
Posts: 10
If it only contains a reset button, i would also say it's just a passthru with reset. Check if the reset switch is connected to pins 1 (GND) and 3 (RESET) of the user port. If so - fine. This thing lets your expansion port free for other stuff, maybe Simons Basic or such stuff. I heard, there really were cartridges other than freezers with reset buttons and so Lindy created this "standalone reset button cartridge" for the user port.

Would also fit into the products of Lindy, they made stuff for nearly everything, sometimes more useful, sometimes less (seen from the perspective of a guy who is able to use a soldering iron :)
2006-12-31 19:09
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
Quote: Because that lets you use a cartridge that doesn't have a reset button? Because the passthrough lets you connect a printer or rs-232 interface? Not a big mystery or anything.

And: There was a time before multifunction cartridges. The first freezer cartridges which appeared were just that: Freezer cartridges! No fastloader, no basic extensions etc. If you wanted a fastloader, you plugged the fastload cartridge in, if you wanted basic extensions you plugged the basic extension cart in etc etc. Most of these carts didn't have a reset button. It was common that people soldered their own reset button to the userport. That's when some companys started to sell such userport reset cartridges to people who didn't want to mess up their C64.
2007-01-02 05:54
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
maybe its just a dongle from some software.
2007-01-02 11:04
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Post a picture, it says more than a 1000 words ;)
2007-01-02 12:59
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705
wasn't it possible to apply software protection to prevent reset via user port. i know other methods can be used to prevent successful freeze/reset via cartridge point to an extent as well.
2007-01-02 13:03
MiK
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Registered: Dec 2006
Posts: 10
RESET is RESET, it doesn't matter, from where it comes. So yes, it was possible to inhibit the RESET via user port also. By just putting a cartridge ROM signature at $8000. But it's no difference, if you reset via cartridge port, user port, serial port, or even do it the clean way shorting the capacitor at the NE556.
2007-01-02 13:32
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
Not exactly true.. On OLD c64, yes - but on newer ones, there's an INTRES and EXTRES signal, and the EXTRES connected to the Serial Port will not trigger an INTRES and vice versa. That's why newer c64s do not reset the 1541 when resetting and why resetting a connected 1541 will reset OLD c64s.

..but would it in theory be possible to somehow keep the RES pin on the CIAs pulled high? ..or even pull it low using software? - I figure some weird 6526 bug/feature would have to be found/utilized for that ;-)

2007-01-02 14:52
MiK
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Registered: Dec 2006
Posts: 10
Ah, okay, didn't know that difference in the new C64, as i didn't care that model too much. In fact, i never played along too much with RESET. Connected it in my old 64s to the NE556, and the 128 has it built-in, besides this, my parallel cable has a reset switch :)

I don't think this "hard reset by software" would work, except, there is really a bug in the CIA, but besides all other bugs in the chips built into old commodores, this is quite unlikely. Pulling it low for a longer time won't work at all, as this would also reset the CIA, which then initialized and would release reset immediately.
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