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2006-10-16 09:12
hqn

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 22
The first copyparty ever

I was wondering about this during X2006, but who knows this:

What was the rumored first ever organised copyparty in the woild? Who was there and what was released?

Shoot the breeze y'all...
2006-10-16 10:55
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Im not quite sure, but I reckon there was a party in 1984 arranged by Berlin Cracking Service - ofcourse in Germany
2006-10-16 11:05
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647
Isn't it most likely that this phenomenon grew gradually out of friends meeting friends and so on, and that it would be impossible to state when the first "real" party occured? ...or what do you require of a meeting being called a "copy party"? Being big enough? Open ended invitations not just to people you know personally?

Not very helpful answer I guess (sorry). I just felt I doubt that this question has a real answer. ...or what do you think?
2006-10-16 11:18
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
I agree with you Frantic, there's probably no real answer to this question.
2006-10-16 11:40
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360
yes, such question automatically raises another question "what makes an event a copy party?"

afterall, back then when steve jobs and friends met in their homemade computers club, they copied software aswell (and sometime later mr gates came up with the idea of "intelectual property").
2006-10-16 19:23
hqn

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 22
The way I see it, there are two kinds: the informal in-house affairs, and the more officious parties in a (rented) venue. I was talking about the last kind, hence the word "organised". Sorry if I was unclear.

CBA is awfully quiet, being a living C64 encyclopedia & all. :)
2006-10-17 07:21
icon

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
First party held in Sweden that was organized like todays parties was the Furulund meeting organized by S.O.S/Defiers . The second was just two months after and it was the first Alvesta party by The Silents. I was there and had a blast. :-)
2006-10-17 07:54
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
I'm quite sure that the Berlin Cracking Service meeting must have been the first scene-related meeting in a rented venue, ever. Never heard of anything like that until '86 or sth.

I'm more interested in when the term "copyparty" first was minted and used? First use of "copyparty" in Sweden got to have been one of the Alvesta-parties in '87. By the end of '87 it was firmly rooted as a term, anyway (eg. The Triad+Fairlight Copyparty and so on).
2006-10-17 08:44
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935
Quote: The way I see it, there are two kinds: the informal in-house affairs, and the more officious parties in a (rented) venue. I was talking about the last kind, hence the word "organised". Sorry if I was unclear.

CBA is awfully quiet, being a living C64 encyclopedia & all. :)


hehe , well I went to my first real copy party in
1987, venlo that is.

But already before we had local lame computer parties, but none of them were scene related.

2006-10-17 09:00
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
Wrong by me above. The Triad+Fairlight Copyparty wasn't until December 88, and the term was surely set steady before that in Sweden. Some danish parties used the term "copyparty" in 1987, didn't they? And surely some german ones too?
2006-10-17 10:38
Skylab

Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 183
It wasn't a BCS-Copyparty, it was a Plutonium Crackers Copyparty. Look at:
Plutonium Party 1984

PC-Copyparty was an early event. But I don't think that it was the first one. There have been several other parties, small local ones and some bigger ones of the 'real' old school ones.

Anyway, I would like to get more specific information about the PC-Copyparty (Attendants etc.) - So Alien, Don, CJW, CPU get ya asses up and reactivate your brains...

Greetz!
Skylab
2006-10-17 13:32
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Quote: It wasn't a BCS-Copyparty, it was a Plutonium Crackers Copyparty. Look at:
Plutonium Party 1984

PC-Copyparty was an early event. But I don't think that it was the first one. There have been several other parties, small local ones and some bigger ones of the 'real' old school ones.

Anyway, I would like to get more specific information about the PC-Copyparty (Attendants etc.) - So Alien, Don, CJW, CPU get ya asses up and reactivate your brains...

Greetz!
Skylab


Oh I reckon it was you who told me about the BCS-copyparty, but I guess I mixed it up.
2006-10-17 13:50
ALiEN-AnTiTraX
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Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 3
I agree with Frantic and Zyron, it isn't easy to establish a set of terms. What's a copy-party and what's not...

I wrote a PAiN mag report for our first copy-party in 1984:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/event/showreport.php?report_id=81
And I wrote about a not scene related meet in 1981!:
"Wau Holland, who sadly passed away in 2001, already organized a meeting of computer freaks in Berlin as early as 1981"

We visited many small 3-8 people home-meets starting in 1982 and copied disks, but didn't use to call them copy parties.
The 1984 meet was very special to us.
It wasn't held at home for the first time and it was the first time foreign sceners visited Berlin.

All these PC, CFB, BCS, Antitrax labels have been created for the cops and apply to the same 4-5 people.
We keept this nickflood alive on Amiga: SSS, PCT...
2006-10-18 01:44
vigo
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Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 13
lovely venlo meetings!
2007-05-17 12:05
Fix

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 54
****** First party held in Sweden that was organized like todays parties was the Furulund meeting organized by S.O.S/Defiers . The second was just two months after and it was the first Alvesta party by The Silents. I was there and had a blast. :-)


This is not true.. there were copy parties long before that party.

Actually is was in Furulund, at Scoutgården :-)
Think it was 1-2 year before party above.

Party organisers were Reagan Cracking Service, and I know they did release a demo with a picture of Ronald Reagan. And when you reset the computer there were a quite cool effect.

Find the demo, and we know what date and year :-)

I missed the first one, but were a lucky guy who attended the next one. could it be 86?

Here is the demo think..
Holly. E. Cr.
2007-06-29 16:47
ochrana
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 9
assuming Harlequin means C64 copy party?

cba: I think I hear those Courbouis guys who organized venlo, houten, nijmegen and eindhoven started with another platform. Not sure what it was though.. However, imho, those were more meetings than parties.

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