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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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The Mercenary Cracker - Charles Deenen
Ok, I found some quite crappy demos from 1991, they're called Game Music I - X. They were obviously made by The Mercenary Cracker (aka Charles Deenen /MON). As I know that Charles Deenen was one of the founders of Maniacs of Noise (back in 1987 IIRC) and has been producing high quality music ever since I find it quite hard to believe that the same person wanted to draw the attention to himself with crappy demos containing game-music rips in 1991.
So: Was there another TMC or are they one and the same? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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;-))))) I dion't know the answer to your question, however, everyone was starting somehow. You weren't walking on 2 legs all the time, in past you were lousy baby crawling around your mommy making poo anytime you needed to ... you know what. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Yeah, sure, one can't really be against it if people do not produce _that_ advanced stuff on their first steps. That was not what I was aiming at anyway. :-)
It's just the fact that these demos were done *after* he was member of MON and Scoop. And he was kind of desperately trying to draw the attention of the famous crackergroups FAC, ABC and others to him. I was just wondering... ;-) |
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Rough
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1991 doesnt concern the release year.
In the middle of the 80s it was hip in the scene to add a year display to your handle / group name, e.g.
TMC 1991
RADWAR ENTERPRISES 1941
WARRIORS OF DARKNESS 1933
JEDI 2001
ALPHA FLIGHT 1970
These four digit numbers were often used for the basic SYS lines of the demos/cracks people released.
TMC's demos were probably from 1986.
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Rough
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my handle in 1987 was onTop the Ninja of the New German Cracking Service in 1941.
I love this lameness!!! :) :) :)
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Hehe, that's most probably the best explanation for this. The demos with the music rips look like mid-eighties anyway...
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No-XS
Registered: Mar 2002
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Shouldn't you upload them?! :))
greetz.. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Erm... why not? =)
I didn't bother checking if they're on some ftp already (got them from a friend via e-mail).
I'll check and upload them and add them to CSDb later on. |
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Morpheus
Registered: Feb 2004
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Charles Deenen = The Mercenary Cracker. Why he would make such lame demos? First of all, the Game Music series are CLASSICS, and secondly, this is where he started of. He got interested in music, couldn't compose himself yet, so he ripped and spread those music demos (like everybody else in those days) -- desperately wanting to join FCG (which he later did).
It's worth mentioning that Charles himself isn't too fond of those demos, but you gotta start somewhere.
And Rough is right, everyone had numbers in those day. 1001, 1941, 1103, 2001, 3001, 1991 etc. etc. The Game Music demos were released like 1985-86-87. If anyone knows the dates, please let me know.
Andreas // Morpheus // Flash Inc. // www.c64hq.com |
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Crossfire
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It is the same guy, and I remember those rips, but they are DEFINATELY older than 1991! They're from the middle of the 80ies, probably 85 or 86.. |
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Graham
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Steppe, those demos weren't crap in 1985-1986. it was the demo standard back then. |
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Graham
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ah yes, and the "1991" which confused you was just one of these typical numbers which groups attached to their names in the middle eighties, just like "radwar 1941" or "gamebusters 1541"... so it was "tmc 1991". ofcourse, with the 90s already being past this may result into wrong release dates because many groups chose numbers such as 199? or 200?. TLS even used 1989 so it is VERY confusing when you have a 1987 TLS demo which says "TLS in 1989". |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Allright, thanks for clearing it up, Graham. Didn't mean to throw shit at these old pieces. ;-) |
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Morpheus
Registered: Feb 2004
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Quote: ah yes, and the "1991" which confused you was just one of these typical numbers which groups attached to their names in the middle eighties, just like "radwar 1941" or "gamebusters 1541"... so it was "tmc 1991". ofcourse, with the 90s already being past this may result into wrong release dates because many groups chose numbers such as 199? or 200?. TLS even used 1989 so it is VERY confusing when you have a 1987 TLS demo which says "TLS in 1989".
It's not confusing if you know some scene history. ;)
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SIDWAVE
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I started my career as a music ripper, by ripping Rob Hubbard's tunes from the Game Music demos by TMC. :-)
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Tronic
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It was a fad back in the mid-to-late 80s to make music-rip demos.
I know I made a ton of them too. Totally unecessary (unless you ripped something truly unique) but everyone made them!!
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