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RGUERRERA
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question on music/commodere 64
is there any specific model i need to use the c64 for music. the one i'm looking for has the 6581 chip. do i have to program sounds in using syntax. can anyone shed some light on this issue thanks
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Graham
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that 6581 vs 8580 issue is just a matter of taste. i like the 6581 more, but others prefer 8580.
when it comes to c64 versions: the old c64 (brown casing + breadbox design) has the 6581, and so does the flat C128 and the C128D in plastic casing. |
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chatGPZ
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graham.... just a rule of thumb with the casing though. there have been old and new sids in old and new c64s, not even to speak about replacement parts etc. (eg, i have one of these "aldi" c64s with an OLD sid in it, very strange :=P) |
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Dr.Voice
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True, I got also two of these new C64 with the 6581R4 sidchip. |
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Johan
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Hi i Just Wounder if there is a way to convert .Sid files to .mp3 files ?
Thnx / Johan |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Sure it is, however I couldn't say how it's done directly from SID to MP3.
Just save the SID tune as WAV, then convert it to MP3.
Which sidplayer do you use? |
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MorGorr
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Quote: is there any specific model i need to use the c64 for music. the one i'm looking for has the 6581 chip. do i have to program sounds in using syntax. can anyone shed some light on this issue thanks
rich.guerrera@snet.net
Yes. You may program sounds by writing specific values into the registers of the SID. In assembler, for example.
But you may also choose among dozens of different music editors that take care of these details. To produce anything "useful", you need to know how the SID registers work, and get familiar with the effects of the editors (more precisely, their player routines). For example, try downloading the DMC or Sid Duzzit, and load one of the demo tunes in to see what happens.
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Pater Pi
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You could also download Cybertracker as it is kind of easy to use and will help you a lot to learn the basics of how instrument-making on the c64 will work as it has got some graphical interface instead of the number-based interfaces in most music-editors.
If you feel comfortable about reading about all the attack-decay-release-filter-blah stuff in some manual or sid-description you may also go straight to the editor of your choice what would heavily depend on what you want to do...
a) easy editor for doing music for no special purpose but probably music-compos or programs where you do not have to care about rastertime or memory: cybertracker (the memory- and rastertime-thing may hopefully change in the future tough)
b) still easy to use editors but based on numbers with lesser use of memory and rastertime: dmc
c) like b but based on pc if you like cross-developing music: goat tracker
d) advanced editors with very cool possibilities: s.d.i, jch...
ofcourse there are a lot more out there who are also very very good...
browse the ftps and you shall find. |
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Puterman
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So, er, DMC is easy to use and JCH isn't? Some people might not agree. :-) |
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Stryyker
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DMC 1.2 is nice and easy - built in docs. Most of the time the numbers are a small issue and are relatively easy to understand as most editors do use some note-ocatve based system for the notes. JCH and DMC series are overall good packages. Listen to all the tunes made in them, some nice tunes but nothing to complex about either system. |
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Pater Pi
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Some people may not, right... but that's how I felt.
Never really understood JCH and to make it worse the instructions for JCH are somehow wierd. (:
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carlsson
Registered: Nov 2002
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Two years ago, I downloaded available versions of both DMC (I think it was DMC 5, but maybe DMC 4 ?), JCH and a half dozen of other editors. Most of them were once programmed for the 37337 people, with a hackeresque user interface, incomplete documentation and with cheerful comments as "don't spread this to lamers" etc. Yes, very 90'ties.
In the end, I evaluated EMS and SIDwinder, and the very detailed, straight and printable docs for SIDwinder made me choose this quite recent editor. I know a number of new editors have emerged in the last years, like Ninjatracker or for that matter the PC-reSID-enabled Goat Tracker which I like to use as it is easy to work with. |
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Reed
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two words, gentlemen: john player |
