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2007-02-06 14:47
Oswald

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Tramiel in Hungary

Just a historical side not that is missing even from "on the edge".

A hungarian engineer Jánosi Marcell have created a 3 inch floppy disk in 1974. Various companys arrived in hungary to buy it, but the gigalame socialist politics prevented that. Anyway Commodore's Jack Tramiel was personally in Hungary to negotiate about the product. Commodore was testing it for a month, and they found no bugs. When negotiating with Tramiel instead of trying to selling the product to Commodore the factory's first man blabbled about how great their factory is. Also the japs were crazy to get their hands on it, but it was no go for them aswell. After the patent rights has expires in 1981 sony went for the market with the well known 3,5" floppy disk.


imagine C= in 1974 with such a product and a patent :) that would have bought the company atleast 10 more years in the existance even with all that fuckhead managers.
2007-02-06 14:50
Oswald

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2007-02-06 15:01
Mace

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Is that you, Oswald? ;)
2007-02-06 15:04
Oswald

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sigh :)

I've found some more pics:

http://brg.8bit.hu/html/mcd1/keptar.html
2007-02-06 15:46
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: Is that you, Oswald? ;)

Oswald is much more handsome than that bloke on the pictures.
Rumours say Oswald even received condoms and sketch-art of fans that adore his holy codingness.

On the more serious note, nice find Z!
2007-02-06 16:19
Oswald

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scout :D

btw some more infos here:

http://brg.8bit.hu/html/mcd1/dokumentumok.html
2007-02-06 18:18
null
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is that an 8" floppy on the left? looks so big...

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2007-02-06 19:43
Nightlord
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Hey Oswald really nice find. Is this work related to the 3" disk that Amstrad used later on cpc6128? Or Amstrad guys somehow reinvented it.

Also I wonder, how did you find out about this? Do you know that engineer or something :)
2007-02-06 19:56
The Ignorance

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He had a relationship with that engineer... :)
2007-02-06 21:05
Oswald

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hehe :)

you can see the engineer (the old man) at the bottom of this page. He is about 75 yrs old by now.

http://brg.8bit.hu/html/mcd1/keptar.html


Actually I knew about this, but today the most popular hungarian newsite covered the whole story in a nice article.

I dont know about amstrad relations. but in 82 hungarians have sold atleast a few thousands of it.
2007-02-06 21:05
Graham
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Amstrad didn't invent anything. Their computers were strictly off-the-shelf hardware (except for the case and the keyboard).
2007-02-07 01:42
Conrad

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Dam businessmen, IMHO i really hate them! All they want is the money, not the hardware! Anyway, great find and wished it could of gone to Commodore in the first place :(

And as Knoeki said earlier, that 5.25'' disk on the photo surely must be fake...it's much bigger than it should be, unless that bloke's right hand is dwarf size.
2007-02-07 07:00
Mace

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That's not 5.25", it's an 8" floppy.
And that's also what Knoeki said ;-)

The 5.25" floppy wasn't invented untill 1975, so designing a 3" floppy in 1974 is quite astonishing.
2007-02-07 16:25
null
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8"?! w00t!


*fapfap*
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2007-02-07 16:33
enthusi

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at the local accelerator facility there are still tons (probably literally) of 8"-disks.
Even some c16 around - not in use though :)
Should take some pictures one day before they too vanish
2007-02-07 16:42
Mace

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Ooh, I love pictures of piles of unused hardware that ppl have forgotten about :-D
2007-02-07 16:55
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
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He he, Things were much bigger back then ! It just shows you how items have shrunk in size over the years.

I WANNA 8'' DISK FOR CHRISTMAS!!! :D
2007-02-07 17:02
stash
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well they say the camera ads 5 kilo :)
2007-02-07 18:41
null
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Quote: He he, Things were much bigger back then ! It just shows you how items have shrunk in size over the years.

I WANNA 8'' DISK FOR CHRISTMAS!!! :D


hehe, yeah... me too. or even better, my birthay... that's sooner... =)

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2007-02-07 20:38
Mace

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Boy, am I a lucky chap!
I've already got an 8" floppy right here.
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