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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
VIC20 #7th worst pc of all time
thank you PC WORLD. You're more objective than ever:
"Yes, we know--it was the first personal computer to sell more than a million units...","But.. its TV commercials featured William Shatner"
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129857-page,5-c,desktoppcs/ar..
how on earth zx81 didnt made it into the list ? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
also, who gives a damn? =P |
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Raf
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343 |
very similiar to Clarkson talking crap about cars ;-)
www.vulture.c64.org |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
Quote: very similiar to Clarkson talking crap about cars ;-)
www.vulture.c64.org
LOL. You and your Polonez's Raf :-) |
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null
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
well, I think it's correct... as the Vic20 is _NOT_ a PC ;) ;)
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
P.C. = personal computer. Hence, the Vic-20 qualifies. And so does the c64 ('best sold pc ever'). |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
there was a strict line between personal computers and home computers back in the 80s and the 64 and the VIC were definately home computers. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quoting WikipediaA personal computer (PC) is a microcomputer whose price, size, and capabilities make it useful for individuals. The term was popularized by Apple with the Apple II in the late-1970s and early-1980s, and afterwards by IBM with the IBM Personal Computer. Personal computers are also known as home computers.
Quoting Wikipedia, once againThe Commodore 64 is the best-selling single personal computer model of all time.
Now I don't feel like going into a 'definition war' (because I hate those), fact of the matter is that to a lot of people, computers like the vic and the c64 are personal computers, and thus the vic20 qualifies for this list. 'nuff said. |
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AüMTRöN
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 44 |
HeimKomputar!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_computer
If you read this list the PC is also included.
You say "Personal Computer", I say "Home Computer", let's call the whole thing off... |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
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I dont get the idea why this should be a "definition war".
Like I described is the way it was commonly seen in Germany back in the 80s, might been different in Holland and elsewhere. |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
Damn, and I just got one from Ebay! |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
The C64C even says "Commodore 64 Personal Computer" on the casing... |
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
Quote: there was a strict line between personal computers and home computers back in the 80s and the 64 and the VIC were definately home computers.
"Personal Computer" is a marketting term for small computers which can suit your personal need by loading programs from some read/writable media. That's basically it. Every home computer is also a personal computer.
That the term "PC" is used synonymous for "PC with roots in the IBM PS/2 compatible field" is from the mid/early 90s, where the typical "IBM PC"-term was slowly replaced by just writing "PC". |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Quote: The C64C even says "Commodore 64 Personal Computer" on the casing...
like Graham said it's also been used as marketing term (also for the C128), because it sounds more professional to have a PC, the term home computer was affiliated with gaming computers.
And, Graham, the short form PC for IBM PCs was already used in the 80s. |
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AüMTRöN
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 44 |
Look... It's definetly "Home Computer"... otherwise the Kraftwerk song is fucked...
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
@Rough: Yes, because IBM PCs are PCs too :D |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Quote: @Rough: Yes, because IBM PCs are PCs too :D
Ah, no, not really. 8) |
