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2007-03-24 12:21
Oswald

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VIC20 #7th worst pc of all time

thank you PC WORLD. You're more objective than ever:

"Yes, we know--it was the first personal computer to sell more than a million units...","But.. its TV commercials featured William Shatner"

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129857-page,5-c,desktoppcs/ar..


how on earth zx81 didnt made it into the list ?
 
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2007-03-25 00:23
AüMTRöN

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 44
HeimKomputar!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_computer

If you read this list the PC is also included.

You say "Personal Computer", I say "Home Computer", let's call the whole thing off...
2007-03-25 00:31
Rough
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I dont get the idea why this should be a "definition war".

Like I described is the way it was commonly seen in Germany back in the 80s, might been different in Holland and elsewhere.
2007-03-25 04:15
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Damn, and I just got one from Ebay!
2007-03-25 08:35
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
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The C64C even says "Commodore 64 Personal Computer" on the casing...
2007-03-25 09:35
Graham
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Quote: there was a strict line between personal computers and home computers back in the 80s and the 64 and the VIC were definately home computers.

"Personal Computer" is a marketting term for small computers which can suit your personal need by loading programs from some read/writable media. That's basically it. Every home computer is also a personal computer.

That the term "PC" is used synonymous for "PC with roots in the IBM PS/2 compatible field" is from the mid/early 90s, where the typical "IBM PC"-term was slowly replaced by just writing "PC".
2007-03-25 11:09
Conrad

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2007-03-25 15:24
Rough
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Quote: The C64C even says "Commodore 64 Personal Computer" on the casing...

like Graham said it's also been used as marketing term (also for the C128), because it sounds more professional to have a PC, the term home computer was affiliated with gaming computers.

And, Graham, the short form PC for IBM PCs was already used in the 80s.
2007-03-25 16:03
AüMTRöN

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Look... It's definetly "Home Computer"... otherwise the Kraftwerk song is fucked...

:D
2007-03-25 16:32
Graham
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@Rough: Yes, because IBM PCs are PCs too :D
2007-03-25 18:59
Rough
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Quote: @Rough: Yes, because IBM PCs are PCs too :D

Ah, no, not really. 8)
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