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Rough
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[pal/ntsc]
Currently the term [pal/ntsc] indicates if a crack is a first release, wouldn't it fit better to use this term only for NTSC fixed cracks? (and omit it from plain imports which didnt need to be fixed) |
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6R6
Registered: Feb 2002
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I belive that PAL/NTSC tells us that the game works on both pal and ntsc. not ? |
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Tim
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PAL/NTSC does NOT determine that something is/was a first release.
The fact that a release needed to be fixed to gain points however makes it most comon that a lot of them were firstreleases. There are however plenty of NTSC fixed releases that were not firstreleases.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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what bordeaux said. there is no way to enter "this is a firstrelease" in the database yet. (even the pal/ntsc thing is a bit of a "hack").
i'd suggest putting such kind of info in the trivia field so we can migrate it into the new database later (whenever this will be =D) |
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Rough
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Quote: PAL/NTSC does NOT determine that something is/was a first release.
The fact that a release needed to be fixed to gain points however makes it most comon that a lot of them were firstreleases. There are however plenty of NTSC fixed releases that were not firstreleases.
Ah.. say what? This was not the reason for this post. Read again. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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Hahaha... the exact reason why so many discussion on CSDb are counter productive: people can't read :-D
Rough suggests EXACTLY what GRG, Bordeaux and Groepaz are saying! |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
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what about [+ntsc] for any first pal releases with ntsc fixes done by the european side? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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putting a deeper meaning into the naming is useless imho. just put additional info into the trivia AND make sure everyone understands wtf you mean :) |
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Tim
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Mace, i don't agree.
"Currently the term [pal/ntsc] indicates if a crack is a first release"
It indicates more then that.
Having said that I have hard feelings of apointing first release credits. Reason? Quite simple, it was difficult enough in the days of the past, a lot of groups claimed a first release on the same game, several mags were biased and sometimes even totally unfair depending on their own group or that of friends. Just judging by directory info or scroll info most often will not be good enough.
But then, someone might want to cross reference to all available mags, who knows.
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Rough
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@Groepaz:
Does EVERYONE understand what +4 means? 8p
Using a scene database like this requires at least some basic knowledge of computer underground history. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:
Does EVERYONE understand what +4 means? 8p
maybe not. that only further proves the point that the release name shouldn't be used for further info. |
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Mason
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Theres only one agreement made ever and it was the release standards from 1987. The biggest problem is that alot of the groups didnt follow it. |
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Rough
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Quote: Quote:
Does EVERYONE understand what +4 means? 8p
maybe not. that only further proves the point that the release name shouldn't be used for further info.
That was a rhetorical question. Of course not everyone understand the abbreviations, what I was going to say is that if someone uses this database (or similar) he should learn some basic principles (by browsing through the database he does learn anyhow, if he ain't completely braindead) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: what bordeaux said. there is no way to enter "this is a firstrelease" in the database yet. (even the pal/ntsc thing is a bit of a "hack").
i'd suggest putting such kind of info in the trivia field so we can migrate it into the new database later (whenever this will be =D)
*singing like in the spam sketch*
tags tags tags tags tags tags :) |
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Tim
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Quote: Theres only one agreement made ever and it was the release standards from 1987. The biggest problem is that alot of the groups didnt follow it.
hehe.. I did, for a while at least, untill I got told it sucked so many times.. then i slowly dropped using it :s |
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Mason
Registered: Dec 2001
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well I got told too, but didnt change that at all. |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
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From the early 90s, the term (pal/NTSC) meant that the game did need a fix and a $02a6 checker and template was added. It did not matter if it was a first release or a 100% version. It meant only this. Why is this subject even being discussed? Have the old school ways that was the foundation of the 64 scene been distorted so much that people forgot their 64 roots? |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
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And by the way in the old days it was referred to (NTSC/Pal) but this was not accurate due to the fact that these games started working on Pal and had to be converted to work on both, hence the modern term (Pal/NTSC) |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Actually, it's only pal/ntsc here on CSDb because majority of the people writing it are ... from the PAL side of things.
I still, and will continue, to use ntsc/pal until my dying days!!11111
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