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2008-03-14 22:15
Conrad

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Stash vs. Secret Man - ooh the csdb drama!

Well, since no-one else is gonna complain about this, I'll volunteer, after all I have no shame...

First up, round one, secret man wanks his knob off with:
Hidden Cam

Then the dudes in SWA own him in round 2 with:
The 3 ho-men need privacy


followed by another fucktard release from secret chav:
Onslaught's Elite

(with possible ripped code from here: Piccolo Mouso)


Honestly, this is becoming indescribably pathetic. Yes, stash is wanting to further prove how corrupt and bent secret man & wanderer are (we all got the point from day fuckin' one), but this war has been constant for nearly 2-3 years now (or probably more as I don't know how long this shit has really been going for) and all it's doing is corroding this site to nothing but shite. A couple or more bad apples out of the whole load of generic scene releases CAN affect on one's sympathies you know... don't be afraid to admit it.

@Moderators, either you sort out this mess or be guaranteed that more better and well behaved sceners may leave this site for good.... but still, who gives a fuck anymore? The site is already destroyed... and has been for a while, too. Let the secret man play, it'll just build up his retarded portfolio in due course I guess.

Oh and btw, I don't enjoy witnessing a group that I am proudly a member of being piss-taken by a cunttard scener, just because that stash is also a member.

kthxfuckoff!
2008-03-14 22:23
chatGPZ

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Quote:
@Moderators, either you sort out this mess or be guaranteed that more better and well behaved sceners may leave this site for good.... but still, who gives a fuck anymore? The site is already destroyed... and has been for a while, too. Let the secret man play, it'll just build up his retarded portfolio in due course I guess.

one thing: when people release crap, it will be added to csdb just aswell as when people release something cool. csdb does not judge the quality of releases, if something qualifies as a scene release by csdb rules, then it gets an entry.

other than that i might agree on that some people should be slapped twice and again tommorrow =)
2008-03-14 22:41
Conrad

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That I accept your opinion groepaz as usual, I mean obviously it was a different atmosphere back then, but what I'm looking here is much lower than scene crap. This is truly just non-stop retard material between two particulars that more sensible sceners have to look at (if they want to that is) It's really sad.

I mean come on, who really wants to look at a bunch of bum-boys fucking on the screen, especially those with children?
2008-03-14 23:09
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Well, since no-one else is gonna complain about this, I'll volunteer, after all I have no shame...

First up, round one, secret man wanks his knob off with:
Hidden Cam

Then the dudes in SWA own him in round 2 with:
The 3 ho-men need privacy


followed by another fucktard release from secret chav:
Onslaught's Elite

(with possible ripped code from here: Piccolo Mouso)


Honestly, this is becoming indescribably pathetic. Yes, stash is wanting to further prove how corrupt and bent secret man & wanderer are (we all got the point from day fuckin' one), but this war has been constant for nearly 2-3 years now (or probably more as I don't know how long this shit has really been going for) and all it's doing is corroding this site to nothing but shite. A couple or more bad apples out of the whole load of generic scene releases CAN affect on one's sympathies you know... don't be afraid to admit it.

@Moderators, either you sort out this mess or be guaranteed that more better and well behaved sceners may leave this site for good.... but still, who gives a fuck anymore? The site is already destroyed... and has been for a while, too. Let the secret man play, it'll just build up his retarded portfolio in due course I guess.

Oh and btw, I don't enjoy witnessing a group that I am proudly a member of being piss-taken by a cunttard scener, just because that stash is also a member.

kthxfuckoff!



And this was round zero?

Weedlove


Did you know,that the Insiders meeting had 25 demo-entries?

And we have only 3 entries here,true...
2008-03-14 23:38
Conrad

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Sure, secret man - whatever you say. We REALLY want to see the remaining 22 of those "releases"... and I bet your bottom dollar that not one of them are from decent groups either.
2008-03-14 23:46
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
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I'm getting a bit tired by the load of crap releases as well, but...

1) at least secret man vs stash don't take their drama elsewhere.
2) they fight each other with demos, not with spamming threads,comments,etc.
3) the crap they throw at eachother are all listed as C64 Fake Demo releases on here.

the scene has always had its share of controversy, and as both secret squirrel and stronkash are following the rules, why not let them have their twisted little fun.
its our own fault they occupy the spaces between big releases as we don't do enough ;)

and I still rather see a remotely funny secretstash crap release than the latest knoeki droppings.
2008-03-14 23:51
Tim
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Quote: Well, since no-one else is gonna complain about this, I'll volunteer, after all I have no shame...

First up, round one, secret man wanks his knob off with:
Hidden Cam

Then the dudes in SWA own him in round 2 with:
The 3 ho-men need privacy


followed by another fucktard release from secret chav:
Onslaught's Elite

(with possible ripped code from here: Piccolo Mouso)


Honestly, this is becoming indescribably pathetic. Yes, stash is wanting to further prove how corrupt and bent secret man & wanderer are (we all got the point from day fuckin' one), but this war has been constant for nearly 2-3 years now (or probably more as I don't know how long this shit has really been going for) and all it's doing is corroding this site to nothing but shite. A couple or more bad apples out of the whole load of generic scene releases CAN affect on one's sympathies you know... don't be afraid to admit it.

@Moderators, either you sort out this mess or be guaranteed that more better and well behaved sceners may leave this site for good.... but still, who gives a fuck anymore? The site is already destroyed... and has been for a while, too. Let the secret man play, it'll just build up his retarded portfolio in due course I guess.

Oh and btw, I don't enjoy witnessing a group that I am proudly a member of being piss-taken by a cunttard scener, just because that stash is also a member.

kthxfuckoff!


eh? Conrad you sure you tried (but kind of failed) to stay objective there? *LOL*

I'd personally love to know what all the fuss is about, coz honnestly it is not obvious for someone who has not followed this for 2-3 years (following your info) and with all the 'your momma is so..' kind of language used I just don't get the point.




2008-03-15 07:36
Mace

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Errr, war?
I thought this was just Teh Scene.
Bring it on Secret Man, bring it on Stash.

I often enjoy 5 seconds of some simple demo more than most forum posts.
2008-03-15 14:29
MagerValp

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War demos are way more fun than forum flamewars.
2008-03-15 15:23
null
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Hey, the topic title is wrong! it should be Stash VS. Secretwoman vs. knoeki, because secretwoman wants war with me! or at least, so he said in a PM. haven't seen anything from that, though :( he spoiled the fun now :(

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2008-03-15 16:52
Tim
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ok, i want in on the fun too :)
Can someone atleast explain why?
2008-03-15 19:19
Danzig

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/me offers himself as war-demo-coder for hire... $$$ :D
2008-03-15 20:55
The Overkiller
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Quote: /me offers himself as war-demo-coder for hire... $$$ :D

Ok, 50euros to code a demo pro UCF and against ESI .... Hmmm ... maybe I'm a bit in late ?
2008-03-15 21:34
Conrad

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Quote:
eh? Conrad you sure you tried (but kind of failed) to stay objective there? *LOL*

I'd personally love to know what all the fuss is about, coz honnestly it is not obvious for someone who has not followed this for 2-3 years (following your info) and with all the 'your momma is so..' kind of language used I just don't get the point.


Bordeaux:
Okay, I guess I did overreact a bit last night (had a very stressful day unfortunately) but these kind of releases are just childish to me and blows my top, it's just the way I am I'm afraid. But if others are just wanting a laugh from these, that's perfectly fine... I can't & don't control that.

SM: Case closed. Do what the fuck you want! We'll concentrate on our work, and you concentrate(?) on yours.
2008-03-15 22:41
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Quote:
eh? Conrad you sure you tried (but kind of failed) to stay objective there? *LOL*

I'd personally love to know what all the fuss is about, coz honnestly it is not obvious for someone who has not followed this for 2-3 years (following your info) and with all the 'your momma is so..' kind of language used I just don't get the point.


Bordeaux:
Okay, I guess I did overreact a bit last night (had a very stressful day unfortunately) but these kind of releases are just childish to me and blows my top, it's just the way I am I'm afraid. But if others are just wanting a laugh from these, that's perfectly fine... I can't & don't control that.

SM: Case closed. Do what the fuck you want! We'll concentrate on our work, and you concentrate(?) on yours.


Thanx Conrad :-)
2008-03-16 00:39
Tim
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@conrad that's ok mate.. been there, done that.

Besides that:
Is anyone going to explain the beef between stash and secret man to me? can be in a pm i don't care
2008-03-16 02:02
fade
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i think this spills over from the initial wdr fuckfest, not 100% sure
2008-03-16 06:06
stash
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muhahahahahhahahha i dont think i have laughed this much
like ever, thanx guys :)
2008-03-16 10:10
hollowman

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Why dont the Insiders of the retard scene let stash join? You obviously have a lot in common when it comes to skills and brains.
Then we could get rid of these topics and releases and perhaps only suffer one more lousy birthday demo each year.
2008-03-16 10:16
stash
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@homoman: wellfare check out of bounce?? get a jobb and haircut
2008-03-16 10:59
Jazzcat

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I couldn't be bothered to comment on the release by Christian recently (SM), if it was something by someone who actually had some weight in the scene I certainly would at least make an effort in replying, but his attempt actually made me laugh rather than feel anger. :0

Whatever the case, CSDb deserves a permanent thread open for this ragging/trolling/retard stuff. That way it doesn't spill over into the more serious areas of this BBS and thus tarnish the scene with this newage boredom.
2008-03-16 13:55
Danzig

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Quote:
if it was something by someone who actually had some weight in the scene


and again the typical l33t thingie from that guy down under *LOL*
2008-03-16 14:55
Laxity

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I bet Secret Man and Stash teamed up and are doing this to pull everybodys leg..
2008-03-16 19:01
TDJ

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Quote: I bet Secret Man and Stash teamed up and are doing this to pull everybodys leg..

I bet they are the same guy. Them and Richard.
2008-03-16 19:18
jailbird

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All this would be very interesting but unfortunately I'm not 6 years old any more.

2008-03-16 19:40
SECRET MAN
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Quote: @homoman: wellfare check out of bounce?? get a jobb and haircut

One egghead is enough :-)

Stash and Insiders ? Thats like bananas from North pole :-)
2008-03-17 01:04
stash
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lol this thread makes me laugh just as much as
secret(man?) and hollow(man?) poor attempt to insult me.
write what ever u want i dont care about u. i got a life something i realy hope u guys some day will get.

ur both loosers in my book anyway.

i have tried talking to moderators about secretmans early demo attacks against me but nothing happend. as long as they dont give a shit swa will release those demos.

i couldnt care less about this thread.
secretman do what ever the fuck u want i realy dont give a shit we all know what u are.

i dont have time to comment any further in this thread so
enjoy folks keep on babbling have fun. i sure did, many fun
posts and alot of which i couldnt care less about.

2008-03-17 15:10
hollowman

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stash, yeah I know that you got an awesome life, mostly spent on irc talking about wanderer, but who am I to judge. If you find the time then perhaps you could tell a bit about your fantastic career. And also explain what "wellfare check out of bounce" actually means.
2008-03-17 16:34
Tim
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lol.. as an observer i'd say that's one pissed of stash reacting there ;)
2008-03-17 20:18
FMan
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Anyone else thinking hollowman and secretman are the same person?
2008-03-17 22:26
stash
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Quote: lol.. as an observer i'd say that's one pissed of stash reacting there ;)

not realy i am just amused about the retard level some of the sceners seems to have here :)

homoman: hahahahah o du ser ut som en bög :)
2008-03-17 22:47
SECRET MAN
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Quote: lol this thread makes me laugh just as much as
secret(man?) and hollow(man?) poor attempt to insult me.
write what ever u want i dont care about u. i got a life something i realy hope u guys some day will get.

ur both loosers in my book anyway.

i have tried talking to moderators about secretmans early demo attacks against me but nothing happend. as long as they dont give a shit swa will release those demos.

i couldnt care less about this thread.
secretman do what ever the fuck u want i realy dont give a shit we all know what u are.

i dont have time to comment any further in this thread so
enjoy folks keep on babbling have fun. i sure did, many fun
posts and alot of which i couldnt care less about.



demo attacks against you ? Should i laugh now ?

Who started the shit ?

Weedlove

What did you await ?


Tssss,thats more as unbelievable
2008-03-17 22:56
stash
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yes u should laugh about this u retard

Back to Reality
2008-03-17 22:59
SECRET MAN
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Quote: yes u should laugh about this u retard

Back to Reality


eeehhhhh That will not count.

That was last year :-)
2008-03-17 22:59
stash
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every thing counts :)

btw thanx for all the pr work i just loved ur cruncher
2008-03-18 03:23
FMan
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Why exactly is this scene so hung up on retardation? It seems the number one thing, to do around here, is call others retards. I don't get that. Having hoped for a more positive scene in the year 2008, but it seems already that won't happen. It is still possible if everyone wanted!

Ironic for me is that a year ago I was grouped with stash and called a retard by secretman. Now I got grouped with secretman and called a retard by stash. Then again, I am used to being hated by everyone - by some for their reasons or simply because it is fashionable to do so.
2008-03-18 07:06
Laxity

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Another proud moment for man kind. Now: a good cup of coffee. :)
2008-03-18 11:38
enthusi

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all this is what happens when people stop loading from tape and have too much time...

(volume up for song lyrics)
"..when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn?"
2008-03-18 11:55
A Life in Hell
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Quote: Another proud moment for man kind. Now: a good cup of coffee. :)

(two sceners one cup)?
2008-03-18 15:54
Steppe

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Aw, don't mention it. I just had to throw over again...
2008-03-18 16:40
TPM

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Quote: Why exactly is this scene so hung up on retardation? It seems the number one thing, to do around here, is call others retards. I don't get that. Having hoped for a more positive scene in the year 2008, but it seems already that won't happen. It is still possible if everyone wanted!

Ironic for me is that a year ago I was grouped with stash and called a retard by secretman. Now I got grouped with secretman and called a retard by stash. Then again, I am used to being hated by everyone - by some for their reasons or simply because it is fashionable to do so.


Since the beginning of the scene there are federations against some lamer and group/lamer wars. Even in 2008. It got nothing to do with fashionable reason or so ;)

As if the complete scene is negative by having Stash and Secret Man in the middle?! :S

No, I think the scene is more positive than ever. Just ignore these kids and do your thing :)
2008-03-18 16:52
hollowman

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Quoting FMan

Why exactly is this scene so hung up on retardation? It seems the number one thing, to do around here, is call others retards. I don't get that. Having hoped for a more positive scene in the year 2008, but it seems already that won't happen. It is still possible if everyone wanted!

You mean like the positivity you showed when you headed over to the retrohackers forum and started bashing different projects? Ofcourse a fully 1541 compatible sd card solution with utility cartridge and reu functionality is totally pointless compared to the magnificient stuff you pull off with only unlimited spare time at hand.

But on the positive side I heard that you have stopped frequenting irc, so perhaps hating you will become less fashionable when fewer people will have to endure your whining about your life and your inability to use various operating systems and applications.

Quoting stash

not realy i am just amused about the retard level some of the sceners seems to have here :)

homoman: hahahahah o du ser ut som en bög :)

I dont think anyone here looks as retarded as you who after all your years on the scene is capable of nothing but releasing crap made with demo makers and writing posts that would make the spelling bee himself vomit with rage.
And why resort to writing in swedish that I look like a fag, when you can continue with that bit about jobs and welfare checks? I bet you have a lot to brag about in that field. Lots of money in offering drugs via snailmail on #c-64, right?

And if you want too look all cool and pretend that you have you only laugh about it all, then perhaps you should stop sending those angry private messages.
2008-03-18 19:01
Danzig

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Quote:
And if you want too look all cool and pretend that you have you only laugh about it all, then perhaps you should stop sending those angry private messages.


someone has to fulfill the job wanderer did in the past. *ROFL*

and if this is really so disgusting for you all, why is this thread far over 40 postings right now? come on, be honest, you all want this gossip :D
2008-03-18 19:05
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Quote:
And if you want too look all cool and pretend that you have you only laugh about it all, then perhaps you should stop sending those angry private messages.


someone has to fulfill the job wanderer did in the past. *ROFL*

and if this is really so disgusting for you all, why is this thread far over 40 postings right now? come on, be honest, you all want this gossip :D


I could bet,that Stash and WDR are the same persons.
2008-03-18 19:44
The Overkiller
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Stash and WDR are the same person ... Hollowman and Secretman are the same person ... Man, I thought the X-file serial was over :)
2008-03-18 20:25
Zyron

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I suspect we're all the same person.
2008-03-18 20:47
Danzig

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OMG! I'm Zyron! harhar
2008-03-18 21:13
Jazzcat

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Danzig: typical elite? Only calling it how I see it! But to summarize on my previous post: why should I bother with someone I don't respect that much? Nothing elite about that opinion at all. If certain guys run around pushing and shoving yet haven't done anything worthwhile themselves... what does that say?

Anyway enuff said on that... time for a cuppa..
2008-03-18 21:14
fade
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Quote: OMG! I'm Zyron! harhar


stop touching yourself! :) I am Zyron too and i feel violated!
2008-03-18 21:33
Djinn
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What an amazing lack of self-distance portrayed here. It makes you wonder what people believe they contribute with themselves when you time and again see them personify irony by actually going as far as to whine and complain about other people's whining and complaining. Then there's this endless vomit-fest of personal insults...
2008-03-19 10:44
stash
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@homoman: i dont need to brag about anything in my life i know how i live and that is enough..i sleep well at night what i dont understand is why u attacked me that time on irc whit out any reason. (what happend mommy wouldnt pay for ur new sneakers) saying i dont bring anything into society.. hell i have payed all ur wellfare with my tax money did u ever even had a jobb in ur life?? and u should not give a fuck what i do or dont do concetrate on ur own looser life instead

angry note??? i just asked u what the fuck is ur problem simple as that and yes u do look like a fag its not only me that say so, sorry dude

btw i think secretman and baracuda is the same dude :)
2008-03-19 11:01
null
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I think scout and hmvdva are the same person, but that doesn't make it true.

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2008-03-19 13:20
Sander

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I love you all.
2008-03-19 13:30
The Overkiller
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Quote: I think scout and hmvdva are the same person, but that doesn't make it true.

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Om my God! I'm shocked about this revelation :D
2008-03-19 14:17
hollowman

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stash, you should ask for a tax refund since I haver never recieved welfare. I work as a programmer, what is it that you do that is so much better, but somehow still makes you so upset when asked about?

Robin, yes, to be able to say something about fmans whining I have to whine myself and to be able to comment on the crap from stash I have to fill the forum with more crap, if its obvious to you then it probably is to most people.
2008-03-19 15:44
SIDWAVE
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this is a kindergarten, and i am the kindergarten cop!
2008-03-19 18:50
fade
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Quote: this is a kindergarten, and i am the kindergarten cop!

jaaa it iz a tumaaaaaahh..

also, boys have a penis. girls have a vagina.
2008-03-19 21:04
Tim
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Quote: I love you all.

Bah Lierop looser ;)
2008-03-19 21:07
Jazzcat

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Message from Secret Man on IRC:

<SM2009> "Nothing elite about that opinion at all. If certain guys run around pushing and shoving yet haven't done anything worthwhile themselves... what does that say?"
<SM2009> Nice,good that you have an elite member with Stash


funny text coming from someone who constantly hides behind webchat.xs4all.nl (same with WDR), I wonder why they use this? Now THAT's elite!


(waiting for the reply, f.e. I don't have my own inet account at home, my work has restrictions, blablabla)
2008-03-19 23:19
SECRET MAN
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The whole day WdR WDR WDR... You miss him ? You cant live without him ?

I bet you have wet dreams.Go back to the kindergarden with your egghead.

Wheres Egghead ? Working for Hollowman ? Good !

PS:I don't have my own inet account here in canada so im using WDRs
2008-03-19 23:55
Joe

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Yeah, some of us miss the days of WDR and even the excellence in the art of SECRETMAN.
Come on you guys, produce, produce, produce more and be happy :)
2008-03-20 07:02
Jazzcat

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LOL ;)

Typical non-answer from SM that I expected. Hide and go seek eh?! ;)

Keep on rockin'
2008-03-20 09:52
stash
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@homoman nothing u say will ever upset me ur a looser anyway

@secretpussy ur the elite pay member of the scene hail to the gods
2008-03-20 12:51
Danzig

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this is obviously getting boring...

an oz-dude not respected by most arguing with some europe pussies not respected by most... stash writing babelfish like a 12 year old baby... secretman tries to be ironic the others can't cope with... jazzcat is always trying to put the opponents down with his pseudo-elite-trash...

and me is writing comments always ending sentences with that 1989 3dots-ending... ... ... *LOL*
2008-03-20 15:52
bugjam

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The only thing worrying me is the blatant and dumb homophobia shown in these releases. I am just waiting for the next level, when they start "insulting" each other as "nigger" or "Jew". Disgusting.
2008-03-20 16:12
Tim
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Quote: The only thing worrying me is the blatant and dumb homophobia shown in these releases. I am just waiting for the next level, when they start "insulting" each other as "nigger" or "Jew". Disgusting.

I actually agree with this.
A joke amongst friends is one thing, but there actually could/should have been moderated based on this.
2008-03-20 22:04
Jazzcat

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Danzig: elite trash talk? lol. real elite trash talk is something completely different. the bbs rags and inventive stories of the past are the real shit (some funny made up trash about people). this thread is just a chat... stop trying to be the wise old man... most know Secretman as a foolish wannabe, why not just leave it at that instead of trying to stir the pond?!

Away for Easter. Everyone have a good one and don't shit too many chocolate eggs.

2008-03-21 08:17
Danzig

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Quote:
if it was something by someone who actually had some weight in the scene I certainly would at least make an effort in replying


i just can't cope with this statement, dude. you raise yourself over others with it. and in 2008 when people even try to support beginners like knoeki, in 2008 where we all lay in each others arms when we meet again, where we are all grown (at least that's what i supposed but i'm wrong), this is not what i expect to read anymore. In 2008 when even more old legends returned and respect people only in the scene for a few years, it's YOU who plays the "wise old man".

I'm fairly nor wise nor old. I just got my opinion.
2008-03-21 09:20
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2008-03-21 10:13
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
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*LOL* that hits the point!
2008-03-21 18:18
SECRET MAN
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Topic is closed for me.I have better things to do as to hear this elite bla bla bla from a guy which has nothing to do with the old times.He played with his kangaroos as we started.




2008-03-21 18:40
Wile Coyote
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How about a hack of Spy vs Spy
Replace the 2 spy's with Stash and Secret Man.
The objects could be replaced with condom, dildo, etc.
2008-03-21 20:27
The Overkiller
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Quote: How about a hack of Spy vs Spy
Replace the 2 spy's with Stash and Secret Man.
The objects could be replaced with condom, dildo, etc.


Hehe :) Groovy idea.
2008-03-21 23:15
Ed

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173
"/.../ have better things to do as to hear this elite bla bla bla from a guy which has nothing to do with the old times./.../"

@Secret Man: oh, really? Well then why do you have the time to play around here and LOCK MY ENTRIES. ?

Dude. You need to shut up and step back in line. You are in violation dude. I have contacted CSDb about this.

/Eddie Svärd




2008-03-21 23:47
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1159
Quote: Quote:
if it was something by someone who actually had some weight in the scene I certainly would at least make an effort in replying


i just can't cope with this statement, dude. you raise yourself over others with it. and in 2008 when people even try to support beginners like knoeki, in 2008 where we all lay in each others arms when we meet again, where we are all grown (at least that's what i supposed but i'm wrong), this is not what i expect to read anymore. In 2008 when even more old legends returned and respect people only in the scene for a few years, it's YOU who plays the "wise old man".

I'm fairly nor wise nor old. I just got my opinion.


But... a counterpoint: if one's not allowed any kind of judging others' "scene weight" doesn't that mean one must take all c64 village idiots seriously & try to understand them - and that could make one's head implode spontaneously?
2008-03-22 01:22
chatGPZ

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<3
2008-03-22 08:48
stash
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Quote: Topic is closed for me.I have better things to do as to hear this elite bla bla bla from a guy which has nothing to do with the old times.He played with his kangaroos as we started.






lol then maybe u can stopp mail spamming me and my geust book finnaly u retard
2008-03-22 09:35
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 434
@cadaver: could possibly happen if you take that whole scene thing serious at all!? There have been wannabees since day one, the latest additions paint a well picture about that. We all started somewhere, sure, but finally if people just start to ignore those whose "scene weight" is below zero to them, the case would solve itself, ihmo.

EDIT: And I really mean IGNORE, not trying to point at that like jazzcat does, enveloped in his well known "elite" trash. And definately not that "look at me, i bought the first assembled c64 so only me is true" like lots of others hide behind, STILL not capable of anything usefull. David is just one of a huge bunch choosing the wrong sentences, i suppose. It's not the YEARS that count at all. I still appreciate this sentence most: friendship rules.
And don't get me wrong: I'm definately not the innocent :D
2008-03-22 22:46
FMan
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Quoting hollowman
You mean like the positivity you showed when you headed over to the retrohackers forum and started bashing different projects?

No, that's not what I meant or actually did. Don't be a jazzcat and carry your crap from forum to forum. First, there was a question mark at the end of my sentence and at that time I really did not have an understanding what the use was, but now I do.

Second, I did not just head over there. I have been a member of the Retrohackers forum since last June. But why is this any of your business? Why are you acting as another forum cop? I don't think we need any more of those.

Quoting hollowman
<blah blah> compared to the magnificient stuff you pull off with only unlimited spare time at hand.

Okay... Saying this was supposed to improve the world in what way? You are making my case for me, demonstrating the exact nastiness I was talking about. I don't understand why you, Fungus and Conrad are repeatedly pushing down other people.

Am I right that since you think I have done wrong, I must be punished by being targeted with saying those hurtful things? Apropos, despite what you, Trazan and Deadbeat say, I still insist that there are problems with Windows and some of its software.

Quoting homoman
fewer people will have to endure your whining about your life

This is something I still don't get. Why did my haters choose to "endure" rather than simply use the built-in ignore feature? Nobody "has" to endure my whining unless they explicitly choose to do so. Are you so much in love with hating that you want to gather as much material as you can to grow your hatred? And to what end? To please your evil nature? To strike back like an immature bully?

Quoting hollowman
to be able to say something about fmans whining I have to whine myself

What exactly is the difference between your whining and my whining? Except that you somehow think that yours is justified and mine is among the biggest crime against humanity. Why must you "say something" to begin with?

Quoting bugjam
The only thing worrying me is the blatant and dumb homophobia shown in these releases.

Ehh... Some kids are calling each other homos at a kindergarten and you actually think it qualifies as "homophobia". Are you kidding me? Also, being disgusted by something does not equal being afraid of it! Dumb is the immediate judgment passed when someone dares say anything about the jews.

Quoting cadaver
if one's not allowed any kind of judging others' "scene weight"

Tell me why many people often jump to the absolute extreme? It discredits your message IMHO, coz there is a lot of room between "any kind of judging" and the massive bashing that certain self-proclaimed elites keep doing. Forget my wish for a more positive scene then and WAR!
2008-03-22 23:08
ptylamine
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that's a fine response, fman. i think you nailed things very well - but these numb, one-way minds are surely immune to nails.....maybe try with n-heptylamine.
2008-03-22 23:27
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 840
Quote:
Fman:
I don't understand why you, Fungus and Conrad are repeatedly pushing down other people.

Well excuse me, but when have I pushed anyone down in the past? When have I pushed YOU down in the past? Oh wait, maybe you're referring me to this? That stupid one-off when I reacted to your insults on vanja which btw you removed most of your comments minutes afterwards to prevent more reactions? Seems you didn't do it quick enough.

If you didn't know by now, as well as releasing music I've
actually been helping certain sceners with transferring and uploading a lot of missing UK cracks from the golden 1980's to csdb (and still am in due course), providing my part to amass scene history... and you are saying that I've pushed people down? Idiot.

Yes I admit that I started this thread, but was for a purpose and not to get attention, unlike you.

I cut here... off to watch the BP'08 c64 demo competition... much more interesting than this forum shit.
2008-03-23 00:36
FMan
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Quoting Conrad
That stupid one-off when I reacted to your insults on vanja which btw you removed most of your comments minutes afterwards to prevent more reactions?

Okay, let's go over this one more time. Knoeki first accused me of trying to falsify the records and I responded to that explaining what I did and why. You chose to reject the truth to jump on my throat with this:

"Fman, that really is fucking sad! Not only you're trying to hide your stupidity, but you're also black affronting a well respected (and female) scener."

Instead of even giving me the benefit of the doubt, you flat out decided to believe something that was not true, because that gave you the possibility to lash out at me. To this day your understanding of what transpired that day is fundamentally incorrect. But I know there is nothing I can say to change this.

However, I want to ask why you got involved in that matter? How was it your business? Did you just see an opportunity to be mean and to bully me around? I also want to ask, why you made an explicit effort to mention the female thing? In your mind, is it more wrong to say something about a female?

This is what Vanja said before I was involved: "Making your own birthday demo is sad. Telling people to STFU when they point this out is retarded."

That's where it all started. Everything that I said was in response to this. What part of that do you not understand? Again my haters try to express it like I had made an unprovoked attack on Vanja, which is nonsense.

I was very much annoyed by the initial attack on others by Vanja, telling others that they are sad and retarded, but when I react to that nastiness, I am the one who gets bullied for being "disrespectful" to Vanja. Right, solid logic!

Quoting Conrad
I've actually <blah blah> and you are saying that I've pushed people down? Idiot.

How is doing all those other things supposed to cancel out your bashing? Just read the very message that you started this thread with. Sure, you never do that and even if you did, your helping others somehow makes it not happen - more solid logic. That last word dots the I. You prove my point perfectly and renew exactly how nasty you are.
2008-03-23 00:54
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
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I'd like to join the nasty club and hereby second Conrad!
2008-03-23 07:01
The Overkiller
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Quote: I'd like to join the nasty club and hereby second Conrad!

You're not allowed to join any club, none loves you Linus. (wow, I'm so fuckin' evil buhuhahahahaha) ;-) Btw: Happy Easter mate :)
2008-03-23 11:45
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 434
at the end, this thread is good, it leads to multiple directions! it began with stash vs. secret man.
now its heading to each and everyone vs. the others, to keep it simple :D

i hereby open the "confusers club" and second conrad aswell as fman.
2008-03-23 12:29
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 840
FMan: mate, I couldn't care less what you think about me as this is just nothing but text that not everyone is gonna read. Sticks and stones.
What has bullying got to do with this? I'd prefer a fight in the back yard if I ever wanted to bully someone. Sad-act!
2008-03-23 15:50
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2562
Quote: Quoting hollowman
You mean like the positivity you showed when you headed over to the retrohackers forum and started bashing different projects?

No, that's not what I meant or actually did. Don't be a jazzcat and carry your crap from forum to forum. First, there was a question mark at the end of my sentence and at that time I really did not have an understanding what the use was, but now I do.

Second, I did not just head over there. I have been a member of the Retrohackers forum since last June. But why is this any of your business? Why are you acting as another forum cop? I don't think we need any more of those.

Quoting hollowman
<blah blah> compared to the magnificient stuff you pull off with only unlimited spare time at hand.

Okay... Saying this was supposed to improve the world in what way? You are making my case for me, demonstrating the exact nastiness I was talking about. I don't understand why you, Fungus and Conrad are repeatedly pushing down other people.

Am I right that since you think I have done wrong, I must be punished by being targeted with saying those hurtful things? Apropos, despite what you, Trazan and Deadbeat say, I still insist that there are problems with Windows and some of its software.

Quoting homoman
fewer people will have to endure your whining about your life

This is something I still don't get. Why did my haters choose to "endure" rather than simply use the built-in ignore feature? Nobody "has" to endure my whining unless they explicitly choose to do so. Are you so much in love with hating that you want to gather as much material as you can to grow your hatred? And to what end? To please your evil nature? To strike back like an immature bully?

Quoting hollowman
to be able to say something about fmans whining I have to whine myself

What exactly is the difference between your whining and my whining? Except that you somehow think that yours is justified and mine is among the biggest crime against humanity. Why must you "say something" to begin with?

Quoting bugjam
The only thing worrying me is the blatant and dumb homophobia shown in these releases.

Ehh... Some kids are calling each other homos at a kindergarten and you actually think it qualifies as "homophobia". Are you kidding me? Also, being disgusted by something does not equal being afraid of it! Dumb is the immediate judgment passed when someone dares say anything about the jews.

Quoting cadaver
if one's not allowed any kind of judging others' "scene weight"

Tell me why many people often jump to the absolute extreme? It discredits your message IMHO, coz there is a lot of room between "any kind of judging" and the massive bashing that certain self-proclaimed elites keep doing. Forget my wish for a more positive scene then and WAR!


"Ehh... Some kids are calling each other homos at a kindergarten and you actually think it qualifies as "homophobia". Are you kidding me? Also, being disgusted by something does not equal being afraid of it! "

Being "disgusted" by other people´s sexual orientation (or race, skin color or whatever) is even worse that being afraid of it. And it is part of the term "homophobia" anyway.

"Dumb is the immediate judgment passed when someone dares say anything about the jews."

Now that´s an interesting one - only completely off topic. I was talking about "Jew" used as an insult, which is as disgusting as "homo" as an insult.

EDIT: Sorry for quoting the whole post, but I couldn´t figure out how to edit the quote. Now that´s a bit dumb, for sure. ;-)
2008-03-23 17:51
FMan
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Quoting bugjam
Being "disgusted" by other people´s sexual orientation (or race, skin color or whatever) is even worse that being afraid of it.

Oh. How? Disgust is not a result of cognitive thinking, but stems from very basic feelings, the same as getting disgusted by eating raw cow intestines. To be exact, somebody else's sexual orientation is none of my business and I don't bother myself with it. It's simply for me the thought of having sex with another man, or two other men having sex with each other, that disgusts me. But if they do it behind closed doors instead of waving it at my face, I don't have anything to say. Maybe this clarifies...

Quoting bugjam
EDIT: Sorry for quoting the whole post, but I couldn´t figure out how to edit the quote. Now that´s a bit dumb, for sure. ;-)

On this board it has to be done manually - don't use the quote feature at all, but copypaste instead. Then use the force of BBCode. Write "quote=you" inside brackets [] and end with "/quote" inside brackets (without the quotes).

PS. You was in Africa, right? What did you do there and what was it like?
2008-03-24 01:46
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
I missed this, should have brought popcorn, and one of them bells they have at boxing rings?

thinking about it.. heck , get a load of pretty women in very skimpy bikini's =)

I remember posting msgs on a bbs for a certain crazy dutch friend in 95 and everyone assumed we were having an argument , but in reality we weren't =)
2008-03-24 06:43
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Danzig: well known elite talk from me? *LOL* I see myself as a friendly and approachable person who tries to preserve history and uphold scene values that have made the C64 scene so special.

You're entitled to your opinion but I think you have misinterpreted my posts. I promote new guys in the scene too, just read the editorial section of Vandalism News and you can see I try to get a positive spin happening in our beloved scene.

The original comment I made is regarding a little troublemaker that hides behind public IRC services whilst at the same time stirring up trouble. This is not what I enjoy in the scene and it's his negative weight that I'm slandering (especially as he has not only attacked me directly but also guys I'm friends with). I think it's quite fair that I stick my foot up his ass!
2008-03-24 07:00
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2562
Quote:


Oh. How? Disgust is not a result of cognitive thinking, but stems from very basic feelings, the same as getting disgusted by eating raw cow intestines. To be exact, somebody else's sexual orientation is none of my business and I don't bother myself with it. It's simply for me the thought of having sex with another man, or two other men having sex with each other, that disgusts me. But if they do it behind closed doors instead of waving it at my face, I don't have anything to say. Maybe this clarifies...



Well accepted - but then why use an alleged different sexual orientation as an insult? I mean, there are so many marvellous "bad words" around that don´t discriminate a certain group of people - why not use asshole, donkey, moron, idiot ... ... ... instead? Then I could even could see the fun of it.
I know I am taking things too serious, but I think it is necessary to be aware of discrimination issues - and if the kids in the kindergarten use "homo" as an insult, they should be tought that this is not right. It is the small things that have to be done to change people´s minds...


Quote:


On this board it has to be done manually - don't use the quote feature at all, but copypaste instead. Then use the force of BBCode. Write "quote=you" inside brackets [] and end with "/quote" inside brackets (without the quotes).



Thanks a lot - I thought I just couldn´t figure out the way to do it. :-)

Quote:


PS. You was in Africa, right? What did you do there and what was it like?



As a matter of fact, I am still there (in Ethiopia, to be exact) - only that at the moment we can´t work because of bureaucratic reasons. :-( Therefore I have time enough to surf the net. ;-)
I am with Doctors without Borders ( http://www.msf.org ) as a nurse in a project where we treat mainly malnutrition, Kala Azar (a parasitic disease) and Tuberculosis. We also have a small Intensive Care Unit for severely sick patients. The work is very interesting, challenging and lots of fun! :-)
2008-03-31 00:22
FMan
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Quoting Jazzcat
I see myself as a friendly and approachable person.

I don't think you have been at all friendly towards me - and I didn't do or say anything to you to deserve it. :(

Quoting bugjam
Well accepted - but then why use an alleged different sexual orientation as an insult?

That's a very valid question. Probably because to many, that subject has a negative connotation. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that was what I meant for myself there.

Quoting bugjam
why not use asshole, donkey, moron, idiot ... ... ... instead?

Uh, why not just stop the insulting alltogether... :P

Quoting bugjam
and if the kids in the kindergarten use "homo" as an insult, they should be tought that this is not right.

You are absolutely right. Regardless of what we might think, we should teach our children to behave better than us. ;)

Quoting bugjam
As a matter of fact, I am still there (in Ethiopia, to be exact). The work is very interesting, challenging and lots of fun! :-)

That's really cool! I admire you lots for doing that - I was immediately impressed when I read about it in the demo Kitgum two years ago. Later that year I was looking into an opportunity somewhat similar, but the timing was really bad for me. Now I'd like to have a second look, but I don't really know where. I can't exactly buy a plane ticket and come down to Africa and say "Hi, I'm here to help, what can I do?" - and it's very hard to find organizations that offer volunteer work. Also with my degree in finance, I'm not high up on the list of wanted people, but I shall see how it goes.
2008-04-07 16:57
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2562
Quote:


Well accepted - but then why use an alleged different sexual orientation as an insult?

That's a very valid question. Probably because to many, that subject has a negative connotation. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that was what I meant for myself there.



OK, if you and others are just thinking a little bit more about that beforehand next time, then this thread has at least some positive result!

Quote:


Quoting bugjam
why not use asshole, donkey, moron, idiot ... ... ... instead?

Uh, why not just stop the insulting alltogether... :P



Orm, the idea that that could ever happen is so far off that it never came to my mind! ;-)

Quote:


Quoting bugjam
and if the kids in the kindergarten use "homo" as an insult, they should be tought that this is not right.

You are absolutely right. Regardless of what we might think, we should teach our children to behave better than us. ;)



Yep! :-)

Quote:


Quoting bugjam
As a matter of fact, I am still there (in Ethiopia, to be exact). The work is very interesting, challenging and lots of fun! :-)

That's really cool! I admire you lots for doing that - I was immediately impressed when I read about it in the demo Kitgum two years ago. Later that year I was looking into an opportunity somewhat similar, but the timing was really bad for me. Now I'd like to have a second look, but I don't really know where. I can't exactly buy a plane ticket and come down to Africa and say "Hi, I'm here to help, what can I do?" - and it's very hard to find organizations that offer volunteer work. Also with my degree in finance, I'm not high up on the list of wanted people, but I shall see how it goes.



Don´t be deceived - actually finance people are needed everywhere! Just imagine the number of national staff that needs to be managed - get paid, sign work contracts, etc - plus all the money that is moved around for procurement, the social security funds, petty cash etc etc - nothing would work in the field without administrators. So why not give it a try - I can certainly recommend MSF as an organisation to try. Application form can be found online. Go for it FMan!
2008-04-08 04:41
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
Back in the old days, people released crap under their loser labels like LTI, BMW, LRU, AXE, BOTH, etc... These releases were usually war releases which the loser label would greet the groups they hated. Those that released crap from their real group were simply laughed at.
2008-04-08 08:45
Smash
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Quote: Back in the old days, people released crap under their loser labels like LTI, BMW, LRU, AXE, BOTH, etc... These releases were usually war releases which the loser label would greet the groups they hated. Those that released crap from their real group were simply laughed at.

Hell yeah. Will not be judicial in this war, but I am allowed to have an opinion about it.. Think it's lame.

Btw, jazzcat - how did u end up with your handle? Did u choose it before u knew about the old Norwegian crackergroup with equal nick?
2008-04-08 21:55
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Smash: heh, yeh a few guys have asked me about that... laming around in the local Australasian scene in the late 80ies wasn't a problem but then I heard of the group (around the same time I started on the Commie), but decided to keep the handle as they had died. I chose my nick from one of the Transformer toys called Jazz (adding the cat). Heh, check his description (which is fitting for a young teenager entering a community of like-minded ego-maniacs ;) "Jazz is the "very cool, very stylish, very competent" member of the Autobots. His original vehicle mode is a Martini Porsche 935 Turbo racing car. Self-possessed, calm, and utterly collected, Jazz is head of Special Operations, with his own dedicated roster of agents."
2008-04-09 01:22
d0c

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186
to end this fight between stash and secret man, i think we need judge judy...

http://www.judgejudy.com/
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