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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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How many SuperCPUs have been sold ?
Hi C64 fanz !!!
How many SuperCPUs have been sold, do you think ??? (personnaly I got 4 of them !!! )
Is a SuperCPU software market possible ?
See Ya ;-)
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
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No exact figure has been published, but iirc it's somewhere around 1500 units. As for a market, no, just as there isn't really a market for regular C64 stuff. |
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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1500 ! For this fabulous device...
I thought, it was more than that :-(
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Pater Pi
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I thought it was far less due to the somehow very very very very very very higher then just high price for it. |
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MacGyver
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Pi: Compare how much you pay for PC hardware (which are mass productions) and how few speed you get for THAT price. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
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Quote: Hi C64 fanz !!!
How many SuperCPUs have been sold, do you think ??? (personnaly I got 4 of them !!! )
Is a SuperCPU software market possible ?
See Ya ;-)
So from these figures, assuming about 50000 active C64 users (saw that in comp.sys.cbm afair) you'll alienate only 97% of users by making a SCPU only production. But the remaining 3% will be very happy of course :) |
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Derision
Registered: Feb 2002
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Quote: So from these figures, assuming about 50000 active C64 users (saw that in comp.sys.cbm afair) you'll alienate only 97% of users by making a SCPU only production. But the remaining 3% will be very happy of course :)
Well, I dunno if you'd exactly alienate 97% of the users... there have been a few SCPU productions by Steve Judd and Maurice Randall, and it hasn't done anything to tarnish their image with the rest of the C64 world.
Of course... they also endeavoured to port the products to the stock 64...
That's the best advice... if you're going to do something on the SCPU, try to make some of it work on a stock system. Even if it's a "stripped-down version". We're used to that in 64-land.
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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Hmmm, I don't think the SuperCPU project I'm actually working on can be ported on a stock system... (too much time + memory (at least 4Mb are required) consuming).
It's a ... GAME !!! nothing else to say ;-) |
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Eyeth
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Hello.
The 1500 estimate sounds pretty much correct. While the SuperCPU may lack numbers, it compensates with its userbase. Users who have a SuperCPU tend to have a fully functional CBM/CMD setup with at least one toy, i.e., 1581 or higher add-on.
These users are quite active and use their CBM's regularly. Contrast that to the general c64 userbase who only would consider a 1541 disk drive and would rather run things under an emulator or listen to remixed SID CD's. These users outnumber SuperCPU users, but the vast majority of them aren't active as SuperCPU users.
Secondly, if one does develop for the SuperCPU, keep in mind there will be a captive audience of roughly 1500 people. :) Can't beat that kind of numbers in today's CBM hobbyist market.
-Todd Elliott |
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Stingray
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I would like to get a scpu in the future, does anyone think the prices for new scpu's will go up or down in the future. |
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Pater Pi
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MacGyver: ehm.. MHZ/$$ ? I am not 100% sure but i guess scpu is still a little expensive then (:
Anyway you also have to think about what machine you mainly use for all day work..
And when the scpu came out and had to reach the masses i guess most of c64 users couldn't afford one. |
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MagerValp
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The price is not likely to change significantly. Making small production runs of hardware is expensive - as simple as that.
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Pater Pi
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Yupp, but i was talking about the past (:
I wonder if it would hard to make supercpu productions c-1 compatible. |
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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Quote: Yupp, but i was talking about the past (:
I wonder if it would hard to make supercpu productions c-1 compatible.
Why needing a SuperCPU when you got a C-One ???
(I can't port my project to the stock machine but why not doing it on the C-One ? :) |
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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Oupss, I made an error !!!
I wonder myself too ! :)
I hope there will be technical documentations available as soon as possible. |
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Mr. Museum
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I have one of the last SCPU128 from CMD self. The serial-number is 2035...
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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Quote: I have one of the last SCPU128 from CMD self. The serial-number is 2035...
mine higher SuperCPU 128 serial-number is 2215 ! :-)
Has someone got a higher serial ? |
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White Flame
Registered: Sep 2002
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Where are the serial numbers printed on the unit? I see a white 9819 on my SCPU128, but that probably has more to do with the production date than serial number. |
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Majikeyric
Registered: Sep 2002
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Quote: Where are the serial numbers printed on the unit? I see a white 9819 on my SCPU128, but that probably has more to do with the production date than serial number.
Under the metal unit (you haven't to open it), there is a sticker with :
MODEL : SuperCPU 128
SER.NO. : CPU128XXXX
REV. : 1B |
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Eyeth
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Hello.
I had a question about my SuperCPU 128's serial number a while ago and Maurice Randall replied:
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I do have one other question regarding my SuperCPU 128. I got one of the earlier models. The S/N is CPU1281003. Does that mean I acquired the third production SuperCPU 128 model? I just want to satisfy my CBM collecting curiosity. Do you know who has the first production SuperCPU 128 model?
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I think you would have the third one unless the first one was 1000, then you'd have the fourth one.
I'll have to look and see who got the first ones. Actually, I got the very first production unit except it didn't get a label with a serial number. So, you've got either number 4 or 5 in reality.
-Maurice
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There you have it. The latest S/N I've seen from this topic was 2215, meaning there are at least 1215+ SuperCPU 128's out there.
(BTW, mine was a Rev. 1A unit. I wonder what's the difference between a 1A and 1B unit?)
Enjoy.
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Mihai
Registered: Feb 2002
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I've got a scpu 128 2268 rev. 1b here |
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White Flame
Registered: Sep 2002
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hmm, I don't have any sticker like that on the inside nor on the outside of my SCPU128. Maybe I got that first production unit? ;) |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
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Worldwide there are supposedly more than the mentioned 1500 units.
Let alone the 1250+ also mentioned here plus some 3000 or so made for c64 only.
Remember, the scpu 128 was WAY later and close to not even getting produced even.
IMHO around 6000 scpu's would be a good estimation, no ?
(Otherwise CMD wouldn't have it produced at all without going bankrupt immediately.)
l8r
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The Elegance
Registered: Feb 2003
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Hey Count Zero! Have you been in Lazer and if yes: are you in contact with other members? Maybe you still remember me as Scythe of Lazer. Drop me a note.
Greetings, The Elegance |
