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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
X2008: no bed?
What basically has happened here is that the organisers have overbooked the event.
1. The website promises for 70 euros we get a bed, shower and food.
2. The website urges to register early, to be sure of a bed and not be denied entrance at the door.
Now, I get an email today in which these clear rules were changed during the game. (you don't do that)
Now, my registration does not count any longer, and beds are distributed on first come basis.
I seriously do not like that.
You must have rented the farm (+beds) for costs, that are include in the fee. We expect to have a bed for that money.
It is not our fault you overbooked the event. Perhaps you should have switched to a larger site while you still could, or, if you could not, closed the registration and find a larger site for next time.
Yes, I may be picky, but I just wanted to have this said. ;) Nothing wrong with sound arguments, even though it's not the end of the world. :P
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Hello,
No need to worry, each time there are a lot of people
signing up for X and the half of them don't show up.
Niels
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
I seriously hate it when people don't wait for a response from the organization and run to the forums immediately.
it does *not* help your case. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Not this time, because the line-up is really cool ;)
[EDIT]Burglar, then we both seriously hate something! I'm sure there is no real case though. |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
280 registrations, shit..
that's even more than last time, right?
oh well, we can always sleep with the cows \o/
the only thing I expect for the 70 eur is to have my chair stolen during every compo, to find some smelly ass dude sleeping where I planned to sleep and to wake up with a serious Grolsch headache and no more food available... oh yeah, and a massive amount of data insanity and outrageous party spirit!
see you all there :) |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
I think it's wonderful to see the number of visitors is growing every 2 years. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Oh, don't be such a mama's boy! Some of us sleep on the concrete floor even when there's a quiet, warm sleeping room. Gotta admit, that's mostly the result of booze overdose. But seriously, meeting my favorite sceners is worth ten times 70 euros so I probably wouldn't complain even if there would be no free beer (okay, that's maybe the only reason to complain). So just bring a sleeping bag with yourself, you most likely won't die from two uncomfortable nights. |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
You might feel like you died though, but then again, the beer is still free when you wake up :)
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Well, I never had any trouble with sleeping on the floor, but in case you are afraid of loosing the bed and that the floor might injure your body, bring a plastic beach mattress with you. It's compact and so damn cheap in discount Chinese shops, you could just trow it away after the party. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:Oh, don't be such a mama's boy!
yeah really. who gives a damn?
whiners should simply pay twice the normal entrance fee. or something.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
I have about 6-8 nightshift each month -> enough insomnia without partying -> would like bed & sleep -> mama's boy. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: I have about 6-8 nightshift each month -> enough insomnia without partying -> would like bed & sleep -> mama's boy.
We'll be in Ruurlo around 5PM, remember? So don't worry princess, you'll have your comfy bed. :P |
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Dane
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Sleeping? At a demo party? |
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Archmage
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 |
If there is to be any sleeping at a copy party, it should be done under your table. If you're not comfy with this, bring caffeine pills. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
great, that's already 2 people who will happily offer his bed for me. :P :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:If there is to be any sleeping at a copy party, it should be done under your table.
and i can assure you - that will work better than entering a sleeping room at X and find yourself sleeping next to someone snoring like a fucking steam engine :=P |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
So a golden tip:
Bring earplugs !
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Apparently it's "time to get personal". I must have slept through my alarm-clock that wanted to notify me on that.
I'm glad I missed it. Please stop the puberism, already. >) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:Please stop the puberism, already.
if i wanted that i wouldnt be messing around with a fucking homecomputer from the 80s in the first place =D |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: So a golden tip:
Bring earplugs !
Any hints where could I buy earplugs? A pharmacy maybe? I seriously don't have a clue. |
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null
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
pharmacy, hardware store...
also, I don't care about bed or sleeping on the floor. I prefer a bed, of course. but when that's not available I'll sleep on the floor ( like on BP and OXY ). seriously, after >24hrs of nonstop data you don't care about where you sleep anymore. and if you do you're a fucking nancy boy.
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Sleeping on the floor works sometimes, other times it's a real pain (i.e. waking up every 20 minutes, having to shift position - an endless bore). An air mattress is a pretty nice solution. Oh, and ear plugs, preferably a soft model unless you enjoy sore ear canals. |
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Wile Coyote
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 646 |
Sleep? - The trick is to keep driking. Don't over do it, just slow drink, and drink yourself sober. Thats what I did during X96.
I was up all day, drinking Heineken (although it might have been different beer at X). Up all night drinking beer, although I did attempt to close my eye's, I failed. Then the next day it was Heineken for breakfast. After the compo's were over in the afternoon, we traveled by train to Rotterdam. Things became blurry then. Some proper food was obtained, then it was onto the next bar, and then a small bar was found that stayed open all night (they sold chips also). We were drinking until 6 in the morning (Nazz won a ton of cash from a fruitmachine that funded the drinking). Must have crashed out about 7 after breakfast. 48 hours non stop :D
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
I'm not worried about the beds. But I do find it important that there are enough chairs+tables in the party hall. As far as I am concerned, I guess there will max be around 50 persons more at x2008, than there was at x2006, so I think the partyhall is big enough for that.
A few things I also hope for are:
(1) No crap rapper during the JT performance! (that rapper bloke kinda ruined it last time)
(2)Effects of any kind should NOT be added to the c64 sound output, something went wrong with my tune at x2006, I remember. The SID is powerfull enough itself, nothing needs to be added to the output. :-)
I am really looking forward to X2008. See you there! |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Beds, chairs, tables, food, toilet paper, whatever. All those could run out and only the sissy ones will complain. But try leaving a bunch of oldschool nerds without beer just before the demo compo and a riot will start (happened at Function a week ago and believe me, we were not too happy about it).
Seriously, I'm not an alcoholic, but I'd really like to know if there would be enough beers till the end of party, as nothing could beat the feeling of having a lager in your hand while watching C64 demos on the big screen with your friends.
So just to be sure: probably not enough beds, but how about the beer? In the slightest case of doubt, I'll bring some of my own. |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Jailbird, so far nobody managed to drink all the beer
at any of the X parties held at the farm. (X-98, X00, X01, X04, X06)
So give it your best shot !
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Ah thanks, that's reassuring. :) |
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Archmage
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 |
I'll do my best to help you out, JB. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Quote:(1) No crap rapper during the JT performance! (that rapper bloke kinda ruined it last time)
What are you talking about? How can it be crappy to rap "Yo yo yo! Check it out yo, it's funky fresh" all over JT's tunes?!? ;)
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null
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
I diddn't even hear any rapper...
but that's probably because I was outside. music was a bit too loud for my taste inside ;_)
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
He's back at X2008 but we told him to STFU during the performances :) |
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Dane
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Quote: He's back at X2008 but we told him to STFU during the performances :)
Tell him to rap during the demo compo. Maybe we'll score some points if people think that it's digi samples! |
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The Human Code Machine
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 112 |
Don't worry, me and my friend are going to sleep in a hotel... you can have our 2 beds :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: I'll do my best to help you out, JB.
While we're at it, don't forget to bring a box of that minibottle liquor which tastes like throat medicine! Yummie! :D |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646 |
Hotels are for capitalists and lamers. |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Quote: Hotels are for capitalists and lamers.
Calling the legendary Masters' Designs Group lamers.
That's highly unethical mr Frantic... |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646 |
Okok.. :) I will actually make an exception for MDG. :) That starwars scroller demo is just great, hehe. "Bring me Edelgas"... :) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting sanderCalling the legendary Masters' Designs Group lamers.
I think he meant capitalists.
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DjS
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 48 |
Quote: I'm not worried about the beds. But I do find it important that there are enough chairs+tables in the party hall. As far as I am concerned, I guess there will max be around 50 persons more at x2008, than there was at x2006, so I think the partyhall is big enough for that.
A few things I also hope for are:
(1) No crap rapper during the JT performance! (that rapper bloke kinda ruined it last time)
(2)Effects of any kind should NOT be added to the c64 sound output, something went wrong with my tune at x2006, I remember. The SID is powerfull enough itself, nothing needs to be added to the output. :-)
I am really looking forward to X2008. See you there!
God....
There was no 'rapper' bloke, the guy was just cheering and mc'ing, playing the crowd so to say. I for one liked it as it added a party-like atmosphere to the performance. iirc, JT liked it too btw.
No offence but everyone has heard those tunes thousands of times before so if any added flavor is ruining it for you I think that's a very narrow minded un-partylike attitude. Or should we ask people not to cheer either so you can enjoy the SID sound in its purest form? ;)
Also I have to mention that NO effects were added to your SID. Actually I do remember you asking for more high-end because the sound system was a bit too basy as it was a true disco PA system. But claiming an effect was added and something went wrong with your tune is bull.
Anyway... your tune won the 1st place if i recall correctly so why the whining about the sound? Each sound system will sound different. Cope with it. One can only try to approach a desired sound but the characteristics of a speaker will always shine through.
I am bringing another brand of speakers this year btw so if you want your stuff to sound the way you want come to me and we'll do a proper 'SID' soundcheck. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Jeff, no effects means you won't win this year. ;)
I think the soundsystem is always a bit troublesome at parties, compared to the pure and delicate configuration I have at home, ahem. Then again, each of us has a different taste, I myself don't like oompf beats that beat the crap out of the well crafted details.
Guess we just have to cope with it, make a boombastic tune and win for glory (and complain there are no chicks sucking the winner's dick backstage).
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 231 |
just in case you need some powerful pa, i can bring some 15kw of sound with me, or even some line array if needed.. ;)
but actually i prefer decent sound to LOUD sound, so i hope for the best.
as for the beds i hope just to arrive early enough. :) |
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Archmage
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 |
JB: I was planning on bringing some Gammel Dansk. Let's just say it needs to be experienced. :D |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Gammeldansk! \o/ |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Gammeldansk! \o/
:(
Okayokay...i'll try to like it this time then =) |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Just bring the same sound system that you had for X'04, IIRC that was very well balanced and had great sound. The speakers at X'06 were a lot worse compared to those indeed.
I didn't mind the MC'ing too much either, by the way. |
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Archmage
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 |
!,,! Oki! I'll bring a big bottle, if not two. :D |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896 |
Quote: Just bring the same sound system that you had for X'04, IIRC that was very well balanced and had great sound. The speakers at X'06 were a lot worse compared to those indeed.
I didn't mind the MC'ing too much either, by the way.
IIRC that was a set with 2 Bose 802MkII's with the controller... :) Very nice speakers IMO :) However, I think one of them is broken now. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Lol, since when has the music competition at x parties been fair :P ;) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Lol, since when has the music competition at x parties been fair :P ;)
Now, Mr. Mouse...what's your problem?
If you go on this way your bed will be located next to a horny bull.
I guess you will forget all about your back and your compo-entries right away.
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
uh...my problem? Hmm.. I've added a tongue and a wink to my post... I thought I might over-do it, you know, making sure I was joking, but apparently it was not enough. C'mon, man. Do i need to spell it out when I'm joking? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
music compos always have been very fair *especially* in the years when i was part of the jury =) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: music compos always have been very fair *especially* in the years when i was part of the jury =)
demode's #2 is a big shame for the jury. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote: demode's #2 is a big shame for the jury.
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: demode's #2 is a big shame for the jury.
No, it wasn't. :) |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: IIRC that was a set with 2 Bose 802MkII's with the controller... :) Very nice speakers IMO :) However, I think one of them is broken now.
Yeh, it's not only the speakers, you know. There's input and output. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: No, it wasn't. :)
thats your opinion. and there's the csdb ratings. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: thats your opinion. and there's the csdb ratings.
Very true, I disagree with the csdb ratings on many occasions.
But, I remember that WVL (who was part of the jury I think) didn't agree with our 1st place too, and I remember Ninja who complained about our 0gly colours. So, you're not alone. \o/ |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Very true, I disagree with the csdb ratings on many occasions.
But, I remember that WVL (who was part of the jury I think) didn't agree with our 1st place too, and I remember Ninja who complained about our 0gly colours. So, you're not alone. \o/
That's why there are enough votedisks & votingareas this year.
The jury = you. |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896 |
Quote: Very true, I disagree with the csdb ratings on many occasions.
But, I remember that WVL (who was part of the jury I think) didn't agree with our 1st place too, and I remember Ninja who complained about our 0gly colours. So, you're not alone. \o/
Actually I wasnt in the jury, I just counted the votes. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: Actually I wasnt in the jury, I just counted the votes.
Ah. Who was in the jury then? |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote: Ah. Who was in the jury then?
This is about X2006?
If so, we used votedisks at that party too. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
nah, old cows again. |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Quote: thats your opinion. and there's the csdb ratings.
Get over it. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
When I realized that there's a jury on X, I simply decided not to participate on the compos any more and that was it, the problem was solved from my point of view. The X2004 results were indeed a bit fishy, but you once you agreed to play with the (clear) rules, well, it's not too gentleman-like to complain afterward. Just my two cents. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
wasnt the voting infact public last time? |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting Groepazwasnt the voting infact public last time?
As far as I'm aware, yes it was. Oswald was referring to X04 |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
that said, i wouldn't mind to see jury voting again (thousend monkeys, etc) :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: that said, i wouldn't mind to see jury voting again (thousend monkeys, etc) :)
Me too, if only so it would cause Oswald to bitch again for the next 4 years. |
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The Human Code Machine
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 112 |
Quote: Hotels are for capitalists and lamers.
The last party I attended was the Light + Phenomena Easter Party 1992. We didn't sleep for three days and it was great fun, but we're getting older you know, at least some of us. I don't know how you live and how you sleep, but I'm at the lucky position to have a nice bed at home and yes I'll come with my own car to the party. I thought we all do this for fun, or did I miss the point here? |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting THCMI thought we all do this for fun, or did I miss the point here?
Totally, this is serious shit!
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
@The Git:
Well, it was meant more in a constructive way.
Something did go wrong at the beginning with my tune, which to me didn't sound like a playerbug. atleast it's nothing that I have been able to replicate. :-)
I still think the mc-ing was unnecessary, people were still enjoying the act. Afterall the X parties are the best c64 parties I have ever attended, so don't worry, I will still have a really good time there, I'm sure ;-)
I do imagine that it can be difficult to set up a perfect sound-system when sid tunes are played loud. So many different composers, styles, sid chips, etc.
Do slap my ass if you still think I am being a silly about this. The party itself, all in all is a winner. And another thing that most other parties don't happen to manage is to gather such a large amount of cool old+new c64 scene people.
Looking forward to it!
:-)
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