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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Dear CSDb, please help us solve an argument
So, we're having this heated discussion with my gf about the electric stove. She says that if I place a pot on the side of it, the water will boil faster, rather than if it's placed on the center of it. I think it doesn't really matter, the water will boil by the same time on both places.
What do you think, which one is a faster way to boil water?
So, same size of pot, same amount of water, but different locations on the stove.
Oh and sorry for the topic but this makes us nuts, and we'd really need 3d party opinions, you're our only hope :)
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Sasq
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 156 |
You put your hand on her spot and she on yours (no double-entendre intended) and whoever removes their hand first is wrong.
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Why dont you just take a stopwatch and try it out? And please, make a comic strip out of it while you're at it? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290 |
i'd hate to say it, but she's right.. you better knock her up and marry it quick smart :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Good idea, but the stove heats up very fast and becomes hot on the whole surface in seconds, so that way we wouldn't be able to tell the difference after all :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Stainless: yes, that's what we're doing right now :) But it takes a lot of time for the stove to cool down to an initial state... |
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ΛΛdZ
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 153 |
No need to argue or discuss - make a test!
Test 1: stove on center
Test 2: Stove on side
Repeat 3 times for each test.
1) Fill pot with 500 Ml of water
2) check that temp is same (20 deg.) and stove is cold.
3) put on stove and turn on the heat to max.
4) note time-start.
5) When boiling, note time-end.
When u have the results, then post them on CSDB!
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
We're on it! Will be back with results! |
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Kristian
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126 |
You need to open up the plate and see how the threads are laid out :)
Anyway, when your testing is done and you see that both ways of doing it is dead slow, then go buy an induction cooker. |
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Press the pot against the plate for extra boiling speed. This will allow for some cheating during your stove-test. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
I see no reason (except for her being a woman) why the water should boild earlier when its not fully on the plate.
None whatsoever.
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting DanePress the pot against the plate Please, dont waste the good pot like that, smoke it instead! |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Enthusi: no, the pot is fully on the plate, only not on the center, yet on the side of it.
That means she moves the pot as far as she can whilst not exceeding the surface of the stove (yellow circle-thing on the picture).
According to her, due to the slight hole in the middle of the stove (note the picture), the pot's bottom won't be covered 100%. In opposite as if it would be on a totally smooth surface (the side of it). I see the logic, but I don't think that it could matter too much, since the stove heats up fast and really well on the whole surface. But we'll see :)
On the other hand, I don't understand why is there a hole in the middle of old-school electric stoves, in the first place? A friend of mine told me it's probably there for releasing pressure on the metal from the heat, but, that was a guess. Any ideas? |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
First:
your stove is way too big then and you waste all the precious energy if the pot fits on there in numerous geometrically different positions :)
Another test:
spoil water on the plate, covering it all and see how it behaves :)
Because THEN she might be right - depending on the construction of the coils.
See here:
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4685066/2/ist.. |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
put a few heat sensors on the stove which are connected to your c64 by user port. prepare a special cup/glass whatever which can move on the stove by a smartly designed mechanism (invent the wheel if necessery). it should also be able to controlled by c64 (via free user port pins, cartridge port, IEC etc.). then code a simple program which detects hottest place on the stove and makes the cup move to this direction.
don't argue anymore. if you need more details, I can help you. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
OK, the first results just came in. Apparently, I was right.
Still have to test it two more times (yes, gf insists it), but I don't think there will be too significant variance anyway.
Thanks guys! :)
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896 |
And the conclusion : bitches are dumb..
who could've thought! :D |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
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you could have foretold this, because when the pot is on the side, there is no or very less amount of heat coming to that side of the pot, from the side. air gets heated, and the pot is also heated on the sides. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350 |
one day you complain about kindergarden on csdb, and the other you open a topic like this (and probably even expect it to stay and you not getting banned)
ok. just keep in mind that one doesnt contribute to the case of the other at all, and if your plan was to be contraproductive in your own matters, then you won. epic.
and as for the original question: its a classic :) you can solve it by looking at how that plate works, precisely by locating were the heating coils are located in it. (hint: there is no such thing in the center). measuring the effect is difficult even under lab conditions though, as the plate itself diffuses the heat a lot.
(this is SUCH a typical thing to get into a discussion with your gf. LOL)
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Oh. :|
Well, first of all, I really didn't mean to cause any harm to the site's integrity, please note that I even apologized in the first post for not being scene-related, but if you think that I deserve a ban, so be it, woo-hoo.
But taking the advantage of a stupid votesystem to get revenge on people you don't like (what I addressed as immature in the other thread) is a tad different than opening a chilled out topic and asking for an opinion from people I know and might have the technical knowledge to give me an advice. Yes, stupid question, this probably wasn't the place for it, I'll use Yahoo! Answers next time. My bad, sorry. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350 |
really, dont get me wrong. i have absolutely nothing agains topics like this, even if i think they dont belong here.
also taking revenge on people you dont like is the whole goddamned point of every public voting in existance. if you want expert opinion on a work of art, simply dont ask the general public. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
I don't have anything to add, but this is my 1000th post and I think it's time to celebrate! \:D/
*grabs a six-pack*
PS: just noticed the BBQuote feature as well. I think it's cool
I love you all. Peace. :) |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: I don't have anything to add, but this is my 1000th post and I think it's time to celebrate! \:D/
*grabs a six-pack*
PS: just noticed the BBQuote feature as well. I think it's cool
I love you all. Peace. :)
According to RaveGuru the sunken center on the plates is used to heat the heroine before you shoot it.
Also, what are the results of test 2 and 3?
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896 |
result of test 2 : the bitch is dumb
result of test 3 : the bitch is dumb |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting JackAsserAlso, what are the results of test 2 and 3?
I performed another test with pretty much the same difference (+/- 5 sec).
And I was also asked to try the experiment with a smaller pot as well. Makes sense. |
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FATFrost
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Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
Just agree with her or no sex. period! errr.... you know what i mean........... bah.. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
OK, time to introduce my girlfriend. She posed nekkid just for you!
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