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ready.
Registered: Feb 2003
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Hacking meaning in general culture
I often get pissed off when I read that in general culture hacking is associated to illegal stuff. Today I was glad to read this article:
http://translate.google.it/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-..
Quoting Pearls for Pigs 3D bottom scroller:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=72553&show=trivia#trivia
"I've got nothing to code, nothing to paint, but still I have this urge to create."
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Actually hacking IS illegal.
That's not a question of taste, interest or ideology but of the law. |
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terric
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Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 47 |
A little funny.
I actually got this question from a guy at school, "What is a hacker, what is hackin".
And i replied that a hacker is a person who hacks secret country accounts. I couldn't remember exactly where i read about it.
This guy thought hacking was like coding. I sad that i obviously is more oldschool, and use hacking as a word for getting into a computer account.
Intresting discussion.
Any other views ? Anyone? |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
@terric: It is quite the opposite. The original meaning of hacking/hacker is someone who's a good coder. The media meaning of a hacking/hacker is someone who's gaining illegal access to stuff. |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
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Yes.. Jackasser is completely right. According to the legend, the use of the terms "hacker" and "hacking" emerged at MIT in the 50s or 60s sometime, referring to skilled coders/coding rather than illegal stuff. |
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ready.
Registered: Feb 2003
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@rOuGh: actually cracking is illegal, not hacking. As said, today medias are abusing the meaning of hacking.
Even thou, as we all know, cracking today in the retro-computer scene has more the meaning of preservation than actually distibute commercial releases illegally to the public.
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terric
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@frantic and @jackasser:
Now when hearing some historical stuff about it, it makes sence.
I avoid using the word hacking because it meaning has a negative meaning in some ears. This to avoid explaining the whole story of hacker and how some people use it.
If a person questions me if i am a hacker, i still today would say no. And explaining why.
Guess movies and media used the word wrong or transformed it to fit it needs.
Thanks for some new views. |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
what we do is hacking vic and sid all time, right? i'm happy not to be arrested yet. :) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646 |
As long as you do not use illegal opcodes... "ha ha ha".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/goto83/5588189683/ |
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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138 |
The first hackers were nerds into tiny trains.
http://tmrc.mit.edu/hackers-ref.html
Only later came the demonization. Today many academics use it as a metaphor for political activism in general. Manipulating the system with clever means and changing it from below, instead of destroying it. http://is.gd/nnPz6c
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
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@ready: I know the old meaning of the term, but I myself refer that to the action of breaking secretly into systems without permission, with or without criminal intention it's illegal.
Further discussion seems meaningless:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_definition_controversy#Hack.. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350 |
"@rOuGh: actually cracking is illegal, not hacking."
actually not - there are various scenarious where either can be perfectly legal :) for example cracking a c64 original in order to be able to transfer it to modern media is - perfectly legal. making a perfect 1:1 copy to another disk however - is not =D
and i am with the old CCC defition of "hacker" - someone who uses technology in a creative way. |
