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2004-03-02 17:46
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
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Big Prizes at Primary Star 2004

Hi All,

I want to ask you all something.

I am willing to donate a big prize for the demo compo.
Say like a SX64/c64GS/SFX module with full size keyboard,
or something else like 50 euro, doesn't really matter.

What i want to know is, will these prizes bring more and better quality productions!! Because if i contribute one of these there must be at least 3 to 5 good demos!

Maybe also for the other compo's, don't know yet.

So give me your reactions to this question.

So will people go active again?


2004-03-02 18:02
blackdroid
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Or save it for floppy'05, personally I think primary star gets inbetween two pretty large happenings.. LCP and Assembly. So the scene gets torn between these three parties, not really a good standingpoint.
2004-03-02 18:13
drake
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but primary star is a party in holland... and for every scener. not just only to mention those lazy old elite bastards from the antique x-party ;-)
2004-03-02 20:22
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
getting good contributions is tricky, floppy offers
wicked prizes but i think its more about certain
groups showing up to battle eachother. and we happen
to be in a good phase when several people have the
motivation and possibility to spend the needed time on making
demos
2004-03-03 07:34
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
i dont think primary star needs "better" prices. infact, i loved the prices last time. better have (a lot) of that kinda stuff that helps people to keep their c64 gear alive instead of a few "valuable" (as in money) things. pricing doesnt influence the amount and quality of releases at all IMHO - and it really shouldnt either. sceners with balls will release no matter what the prices are.
2004-03-03 09:02
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
It's not about prizes, it's about the competition. When there are no other good demos, there is no use in releasing your own product either.
2004-03-03 09:44
Spectator
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Quote: It's not about prizes, it's about the competition. When there are no other good demos, there is no use in releasing your own product either.

I don't fully agree.

If that'd be the case there wouldn't have been many opportunities the past few years.

It's true though that the prizes don't matter nor stimulate these days. However, we at the X-party organisation still think it's nice to give away something, even money (if there are any leftovers that is:).
2004-03-03 12:15
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896
Quote:
If that'd be the case there wouldn't have been many opportunities the past few years.


exactly the reason of our 4 year delay ;) just kidding.

How about a lapdance from the stripper for all the winners @ X-2004? That would get some old farts coding!

2004-03-03 12:31
blackdroid
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as hollowman said, the .se scene have been quite productive last year and as seen on this years floppy, now parties like lcp and floppy have gotten some attention from outside aswell, so evidently more ppl want to fight for fame and glory.
2004-03-03 15:16
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
Quote: Quote:
If that'd be the case there wouldn't have been many opportunities the past few years.


exactly the reason of our 4 year delay ;) just kidding.

How about a lapdance from the stripper for all the winners @ X-2004? That would get some old farts coding!



You're hiring a stripper for X 2004? I really hope that was just a bad joke.
2004-03-03 15:37
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: You're hiring a stripper for X 2004? I really hope that was just a bad joke.

Well, there were strippers on the old Silicon parties, so it's like a scene tradition ;Z
2004-03-03 15:49
Oxidy
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Personally I feel that it's the competition itself that gives the motivation. Nobody does c64 demos for money and prizes. There are more lucrative hobbies. But, still.. it's a nice gesture, and I'm sure it'd be appreciated by the winner. But don't count on the amount of good compo entries increasing because of it.

I just hope other countries will experience what is happening in Sweden right now. Fairlight, Booze Design, Triad and of course WD are as productive as ever, and I'm sure we motivate each other. Sure enough to name our demo Motivation. ;)
2004-03-03 16:09
Puterman
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Getting stuff like the Miami Connection DVD and toy laser pistols is what keeps me coding.
2004-03-03 16:37
Earthshaker

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118
Quote: Well, there were strippers on the old Silicon parties, so it's like a scene tradition ;Z

Ah the good old times... ;)
2004-03-03 16:56
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
Quote: Well, there were strippers on the old Silicon parties, so it's like a scene tradition ;Z

If they are really going to have a stripper at X I think I'll spend my money on going to a good party instead, like LCP 2004, or Floppy 2005.
2004-03-03 16:57
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: If they are really going to have a stripper at X I think I'll spend my money on going to a good party instead, like LCP 2004, or Floppy 2005.

And what if it's a male stripper?

You haven't lived until you've seen CBA taking his clothes off. Yeah baby!
2004-03-03 17:03
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
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TDJ: makes no difference.
2004-03-03 17:28
Earthshaker

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118
Quote: And what if it's a male stripper?

You haven't lived until you've seen CBA taking his clothes off. Yeah baby!


It shouldn't be that expensive than. :)

CBA Shake that booty!!
2004-03-03 19:53
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 56
Do you guys know some other ways to motivate the scene?

I'll do my best already, visiting all parties i can go.
Doing my best at painting as much as possible, and getting motivation. Blackdroid's piccy from the floppy has this motivation. It will be hard to beat anywhere.

Multicolor rules!

Come on guys, lets put our shoulders underneed and show what you've got. Espacially the old dutch ones.

See at breakpoint.
2004-03-03 20:44
blackdroid
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I think the biggest hurdle for primary star is the date, atleast to get attention from scandinavia, with LCP and Assembly getting most of the spotlight. Dutch sceners needs a kick in the arse I suppose ;)

Breakpoint is another matter, see you all there, WD will represent :)
2004-03-03 21:09
Oxidy
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Quote: Getting stuff like the Miami Connection DVD and toy laser pistols is what keeps me coding.

hehe, I've actually watched the beginning of that movie, and it rocks! At least in a cult-b-movie kinda way. The acting is really kindergarten, and the directing a woked zombie could do just as good.

That movie is planned to be shown at the WD Expo 2004, which gives a hint on how much we appreciate that prize.
A big thanks to the responsible Floppy organizer. ;)
2004-03-03 23:02
blackdroid
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no, please no.
2004-03-03 23:13
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
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to jump the bandwagon, strippers at demoparties suck. i remember ms2k, when radwar hired pia to do her 20 minutes show on stage. i wonder if less people would have bought radwar-tickets if she didn't agree to sell them after she did the chicken dance on stage?
(fyi, i don't want to put down radwar, but that was just plain tacky =)

i take the sarcasm and nothing like that will happen at the x, but if cba would be up for a special on his own .. well. nobody would want to stop him i guess. :)
2004-03-03 23:59
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 56
Oh, blackdroid

about the date, its pretty fixed.
Because in august i have first choice and the place isn't rented. And second people have holiday's then, so the can travel a little further/longer than normal.

2004-03-04 00:21
Oxidy
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Quote: no, please no.

hmm, perhaps it's only Avalon and I who wants to watch it, but who cares. We're bigger and stronger than the rest of Wrath put together, so we´ll force you to watch it. The Clockwork Orange way if that's what it takes.
2004-03-04 01:28
Puterman
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That movie's worth some ultra-violence. Y.K. Kim for president/king/whatever NOW!
2004-03-04 09:32
Tim
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*grin*

i'll do anything.. even watch CBA if needed..
..aslong as I don't have to eat any more Enno soup ;)

2004-03-04 09:38
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
Hi exile,
nice prices are good, but as already said, it will not help you that much.
I fear, you have to be patient, and organize good Parties, you will see that year after year, there will be more and better competitors.

Have Fun,
Zed Yago
2004-03-04 10:14
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896
well, I for one would like to see CBA do the chicken dance ;)
2004-03-04 10:36
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: well, I for one would like to see CBA do the chicken dance ;)

Not naked, you don't .. let's just say that he can peck without using his mouth ..
2004-03-04 12:16
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935
How did I get into all of this !

A stripper at X , I doubt it , that was more a
SILICON thing !.....

X is more about drinking, talking with your old DATA buddies and such. , much better then seeing a bitch showing her tits.

Niels
2004-03-04 15:37
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quote: How did I get into all of this !

A stripper at X , I doubt it , that was more a
SILICON thing !.....

X is more about drinking, talking with your old DATA buddies and such. , much better then seeing a bitch showing her tits.

Niels


LOL

Yeah, strippers were our thing, indeed :)
But Niels...what's this then? It seems you are talking like a real married man now.
I remember the time you didn't mind when a b*tch showed her tits.

@Mermaid: don't be such a partypooper.
On the other hand, we don't need complaining females at C=64 parties. We already have them IRL ;-P

R.
(just kidding, dear)
2004-03-04 19:13
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
x seems to be the place for sceners who arent
active on the scene, partyvisitors who want to spend
their time somewhere else than the partyplace,
and just about anyone who hasnt updated their view
on women since they left their cave to go on a quest
for fire.

have fun _boys_
2004-03-04 19:25
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 56
hey guys,

don't bitch each other, do it in a demo!! make the biggist demo ever to show what you mean.

2004-03-04 19:36
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
@Scout: then I guess *you* have to show us your tits.

@Hollowman: get off your high horse. Just because somebody spreads a rumour about a stripper doesn't mean we're a bunch of male chauvinistic pigs. If you don't wanna come, don't come, but don't call us 'boys' if you don't even know who we are. Most of us have relationships, jobs, mortgages. You know, real life?

Fuck man, I almost lost my house last year, I've got different things on my mind than coding demos. I'm too busy surviving.
2004-03-04 19:37
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: hey guys,

don't bitch each other, do it in a demo!! make the biggist demo ever to show what you mean.



<sarcasm>Ofcourse a demo! That will solve all problems!</sarcasm>
2004-03-04 20:16
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quote: <sarcasm>Ofcourse a demo! That will solve all problems!</sarcasm>

A fuck Mermaid demo!
Now that's an idea! ;-)

(I'm still kidding, missey)

Oh...about showing *my* tits; no problemo.
Heck! I'll show 'em on every party if you want <grin>

R.
2004-03-04 20:18
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quote: <sarcasm>Ofcourse a demo! That will solve all problems!</sarcasm>

A fuck Mermaid demo!
Now that's an idea! ;-)

(I'm still kidding, missey)

Oh...about showing *my* tits; no problemo.
Heck! I'll show 'em on every party if you want <grin>

R.
2004-03-04 20:25
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: @Scout: then I guess *you* have to show us your tits.

@Hollowman: get off your high horse. Just because somebody spreads a rumour about a stripper doesn't mean we're a bunch of male chauvinistic pigs. If you don't wanna come, don't come, but don't call us 'boys' if you don't even know who we are. Most of us have relationships, jobs, mortgages. You know, real life?

Fuck man, I almost lost my house last year, I've got different things on my mind than coding demos. I'm too busy surviving.


I couldn't agree more with this.
Us, 30+ sceners, finally have an excuse to act as boys and forget about our daily struggle.
I also got my things together after a year of lawyers and judges (not even close to a dark one ;-).
Yeah, a stripper would be welcome.

R.

2004-03-04 20:26
Oxbow

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51
Quote: LOL

Yeah, strippers were our thing, indeed :)
But Niels...what's this then? It seems you are talking like a real married man now.
I remember the time you didn't mind when a b*tch showed her tits.

@Mermaid: don't be such a partypooper.
On the other hand, we don't need complaining females at C=64 parties. We already have them IRL ;-P

R.
(just kidding, dear)


Well, I remember Niels' bachelor party on a
boat in Amsterdam. There had to be some drinking
game with 'missions' ;) The last one was to run
naked around the boat in the tourist part of
our nation's capital. It was viewed by several
tourists and a drunken Niels put up a nice show..
hehe ;)

*HAAKS*

And I take it X is not seen as an antique party,
at least one dutch group will kick ass this year!

HCL for DATA-president.. I'd like to some swedish
competition in october!

Hej da
2004-03-04 20:39
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: I couldn't agree more with this.
Us, 30+ sceners, finally have an excuse to act as boys and forget about our daily struggle.
I also got my things together after a year of lawyers and judges (not even close to a dark one ;-).
Yeah, a stripper would be welcome.

R.



Just to make things clear: I never cared for strippers, not even when I dated one (believe me, you don't wanna know). But Mermaid, I sincerely hope you'll visit even if there is one (although I don't think so).
2004-03-04 21:17
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: Just to make things clear: I never cared for strippers, not even when I dated one (believe me, you don't wanna know). But Mermaid, I sincerely hope you'll visit even if there is one (although I don't think so).

Me neither, it was just the boy in me talking.

R.
(yeah right! :)
2004-03-04 23:58
drake
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but still, even if the ppl on x are only tlaking, its one of the coolest parties ever. even if cba not will do some stripping act ;-)

hehe....
2004-03-05 07:46
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
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Only I am realllly DRUNK (mostly on saturdaynight at X) , I might do some strip act along with Oxbow ;)

X = X

Either you come and enjoy the experience or you stay at home.

Niels
2004-03-05 09:51
Spectator
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Ah, the stripper story has come up.. hehe. I must confess i found out the other week it's "financially affordable". ;) Maybe i should see if i can get some digital photos, so we can run a poll. ;)
2004-03-05 09:56
TDJ

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Quote: Ah, the stripper story has come up.. hehe. I must confess i found out the other week it's "financially affordable". ;) Maybe i should see if i can get some digital photos, so we can run a poll. ;)

Please make it transparant. Especially because it involves a stripper, you know?
2004-03-05 12:20
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
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transparent pictures or votes?
2004-03-05 13:02
TDJ

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Quote: transparent pictures or votes?

I vote for transparant pictures
2004-03-05 15:55
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
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Ok, i get it prizes don't matter.

i hope that we made enough impact last year for everybody to come back.

Wvl, why this X so sudden? Last years nobody had an interest in it? Hmmm. Strange....


But any party in Holland is welcome.

WE NEED IT TO SURVIVE!!

2004-03-05 16:07
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Ok, i get it prizes don't matter.

i hope that we made enough impact last year for everybody to come back.

Wvl, why this X so sudden? Last years nobody had an interest in it? Hmmm. Strange....


But any party in Holland is welcome.

WE NEED IT TO SURVIVE!!



Sorry, but where did you get nobody was interested in it?

I'll visit Primary Star, probably, but it can't hold a candle to the X parties in my eyes. At least, for me, I can imagine you & others prefer PS. It's just 2 different beasts.
2004-03-05 16:14
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: Sorry, but where did you get nobody was interested in it?

I'll visit Primary Star, probably, but it can't hold a candle to the X parties in my eyes. At least, for me, I can imagine you & others prefer PS. It's just 2 different beasts.


I guess he got that because X wasn't organized last year.

R.
2004-03-05 16:38
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: @Scout: then I guess *you* have to show us your tits.

@Hollowman: get off your high horse. Just because somebody spreads a rumour about a stripper doesn't mean we're a bunch of male chauvinistic pigs. If you don't wanna come, don't come, but don't call us 'boys' if you don't even know who we are. Most of us have relationships, jobs, mortgages. You know, real life?

Fuck man, I almost lost my house last year, I've got different things on my mind than coding demos. I'm too busy surviving.


when i read posts at csdb or on antidote written by older
people, i keep seeing words like 'bitch','whore','nigger'
and 'faggot' and that might make me up on my high horse
react sometimes. shame on me, i should shut up, behave
and get a pat on my demomaking head once in a while...
and no, i dont know you guys, but i am not really getting
interested in getting to know most of you either. mortgages
or not.
2004-03-05 16:52
T.M.R
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Aww, and my mortgage was *really* looking forward to meeting you too hollowman... =-)
2004-03-05 17:15
Mermaid

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Scout: Wow. Your sense of humour is really something. And the way you use the word "bitch" when talking about women, hey, what can I say. Your mother must be proud.
2004-03-05 17:23
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: Scout: Wow. Your sense of humour is really something. And the way you use the word "bitch" when talking about women, hey, what can I say. Your mother must be proud.

If you look closely you can read I refer to CBA's post.
Furthermore, I self-censored the word with a * to decrease the impact.

And yes, my mother is proud of me.

R.
2004-03-05 17:34
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: when i read posts at csdb or on antidote written by older
people, i keep seeing words like 'bitch','whore','nigger'
and 'faggot' and that might make me up on my high horse
react sometimes. shame on me, i should shut up, behave
and get a pat on my demomaking head once in a while...
and no, i dont know you guys, but i am not really getting
interested in getting to know most of you either. mortgages
or not.


I've got no problem with you speaking up, but don't be so quick to attack a whole group just because you see a few of them use a certain language. I don't like those words either, but I also I don't like being accused of having no respect for women. So yes, when that happens, I get pissed off.




2004-03-05 17:39
Mermaid

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You're right, of course it is ok to call women bitches if someone else has already done it.

The humourous talk about "complaining females" and "fuck mermaid demo" was of course CBA's fault as well.
2004-03-05 18:14
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: You're right, of course it is ok to call women bitches if someone else has already done it.

The humourous talk about "complaining females" and "fuck mermaid demo" was of course CBA's fault as well.


I did not blame CBA, I was just referring.
About the 'complaining females' issue, I rest my case.
And that's also the reason why a 'fuck mermaid' demo never will be made.

R.
2004-03-06 08:30
fade
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Hey i'd do a "fuck mermaid" demo.. for a brief burst of happiness :)
2004-03-06 09:15
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 56
hi guys,

better stop this treat, it going nowhere.
My answer is already answered.

2004-03-06 09:20
T.M.R
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Quote: Hey i'd do a "fuck mermaid" demo.. for a brief burst of happiness :)

And you said that *i* was the only one for you, you... you harlot!
2004-03-06 11:16
Spectator
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Wohh, so much anger going on here.

Actually, i think the word b*tch in this case was just used as slang. Not something to be taken very seriously, unless you really want to.
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