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2010-11-02 11:04
Schlobo
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Who was 'The Final Protect'?

I remember reading a short article in about 1988 in a German computer magazine about two guys who were planning to revolutionize copy protection. They had given themselves the name 'The Final Protect'. The article also mentioned their real names, but all I remember is that at least one of the names looked German.
Their alledgedly new ideas aimed at freezers and reset-crackers.
I think they did at least one, perhaps two protections for Digital Marketing (Demo Designer and perhaps Demo Designer II). Incidentally, these two releases were quite easy to crack. DDII had a nasty protection that only revealed itself in a completely broken saved file. It destroyed your work without telling you. It was nasty because it affected legitimate users as well if they switched off or reset their floppy drive during the session. No word about that in the docs.
The particular methods they used are very similar to what is explained in chapter 7 of Data Becker's "Anti-Cracker Buch".
Does anyone know who the two guys were? Does anyone remember what the German magazine was? I thought it was 'Aktueller Software Markt', but despite extensive searches, I didn't find the article there. My second guess would be Markt & Technik's 64'er magazine, which I no longer have.
2010-11-02 11:57
Tadpole

Registered: Jun 2002
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The article was in the "64'er" Magazin - issue 11 / 1988.
2010-11-02 12:04
chatGPZ

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markus wiederstein and ivo herzeg did protection stuff for digital marketing ... no idea if for these titles though :)
2010-11-02 12:12
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
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Timex?
2010-11-02 13:03
Schlobo
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Tadpole, thanks a lot for the 64'er 11/88 reference! What a fool I was to throw my collection of magazines away some day in mid-90s when I believed that the good times were yet to come.
2010-11-02 14:21
Tadpole

Registered: Jun 2002
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In the magazin were mentioned a "Volker Jungbluth" and a "Martin Schmiedeskamp".

(BTW: is it allowed to post names here..??)
2010-11-02 15:05
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
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Quote: In the magazin were mentioned a "Volker Jungbluth" and a "Martin Schmiedeskamp".

(BTW: is it allowed to post names here..??)


it's ok, if they are from "the other side" :)
2010-11-02 15:13
chatGPZ

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hehe, if the names are printed in a magazine.... i dont see why it should be a problem :)
2010-11-02 15:36
Schlobo
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I don't think there's a problem. If I remember the 64'er article correctly, it was a rather undisguised self-advertisement. They wanted their names to become publicly known.

This is a scan of the Demo Designer manual's front page. Now they can no longer hide :-)

http://img35.imageshack.us/i/demodesignermanualp1.jpg/

But I have to take a bit of the blame away from them. A good copy protection is worthless if the program protection is weak. DM should have entrusted both to the same hands.
2011-03-05 18:52
Tadpole

Registered: Jun 2002
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Quoting Schlobo
This is a scan of the Demo Designer manual's front page. Now they can no longer hide :-)

http://img35.imageshack.us/i/demodesignermanualp1.jpg/

Do you have a *.d64 of the "Demo Designer"..?
2011-03-05 22:02
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
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http://ftp.pokefinder.org/tmp/64er_88_11_Kopierschutz.pdf
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