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2024-08-05 22:38
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Trilogic Expert Cartridge

Howdy hackers ... *g*

As stuff piles up here we are looking to update https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/Expert_Cartridge and while the category ( https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/Category:Expert_Cartridge ) has all kind of content already we found some pictures are definately missing.

https://rr.pokefinder.org/rrwiki/images/e/ec/Your_Commodore_Iss..
shows "The E.S.M." to be plugged between Expert and C64 to provide additional freezing logic.

Does anybody own "The E.S.M." and would mind to open it to produce photos? Or sell it to me? :)

Btw, around 1986 Expert was in the UK priced at:

28.95 - 31.95 Pound (no ESM)
37.50 Pound (including ESM)
7.95 Pound "The E.S.M." Addon

They also had an exchange program at some point, so getting back old carts and likely re-selling them sure was a nice biz model as well? :)

(Pounds * ~3,2 to get the german DM prices for that time :) )

Also looking for anything else not online yet (there) of course! :)
 
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2024-08-30 22:59
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Found a text about the "rambox" having been cancelled - more than half a year after those adverts :(

from https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/File:Commodore-disk-user-issue-0..
2024-08-31 21:53
AlexC

Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 299
That would explain why there were basically no traces of RamboX in form of hardware or software. Overall it is a sad news for me, since the idea could be cool while implementation could be interesting. It is always thrilling to uncover new hardware from the past for c64 after all those years.

Haven't heard about Phantom system before. Can anyone share some more details about it?

BTW: idea to extend Expert with battery would be brilliant IMHO. Programming it every time after power-off cycle has been time consuming.
2024-09-01 00:53
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468
https://github.com/COREi64/The-Phantom discusses it - speeds up 1541
2024-09-01 15:03
Knight Rider

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 131
I also asked icore64 to make a modern expert cartridge with battery backup too... he claims its on his list
2024-09-01 19:05
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
That is almost trivial though, its a single static RAM chip on there - all you need is a battery and a diode (or two).
2024-09-03 23:29
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Nice to see The Phantom on github now.

As there wasnt a single person interested in taking over some Jiffy or other speeder parts those will have to wait a little longer for full packaging and wiki release.

Expert will be updated soonish however and it seems the only question left is: Why was the 3.2 Expert software the only one delivered on tape (as we found so far).

We would have expected e.g. the 1.x software with just a few blocks being spread as tapes as well. Instead we didnt even find 1.x original dumps (disks OR tapes) yet :(

PLEASE check your archives while we try to figure a proper way to present these MANY MANY software versions. ;)
2024-09-06 01:10
Pugsy

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 6
Well I definitely had the John Twiddy version (2.10) on tape - which came with the cartridge. The expert programming screen is still burnt on my retinas from the number of times I had to reload it...
2024-09-06 13:59
andym00

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 45
Quote: https://github.com/COREi64/The-Phantom discusses it - speeds up 1541

Had two Phantoms back in the day, they were very fast things indeed.. I gave one to The Jester and kept the other, which ultimately (familiar story) went to the dump when my parents emptied my junk in loft the sometime in the 90s..
2024-09-07 23:38
AlexC

Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 299
Quote: https://github.com/COREi64/The-Phantom discusses it - speeds up 1541

Thanks for the link - very interesting stuff.

Brief inspection of included ROM disassembly (great work BTW) seems not to contain promised disk drive monitor. I also noticed that it seems some commands functionality is still unknown.
2024-09-09 00:07
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Wonder how much a Prophet would currently go for - a complete set ofc.
Then again there are so many setups nowadays - who needs another.

Pugsy - 2.x taps would be extremely loved as well! :)

ANYBODY else with Expert Cart tapes? Whenever you have no possibilites of dumping them, contact me pls!
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