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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512 |
Release id #203390 : Unity
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Submitted by Ze Smasher on 25 April 2021
great demo! I love the triple fisting part and the one with the big logo swing with that strange color fx (is it by you, Doc?).
I have a question tho (a simple straight question without malignity and bad feelings which I hope won't offend anyone): if you are the organizers of a party should your demo compete against other entries or be set out of the compo?
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Submitted by anonym on 25 April 2021
Appreciate the question. Something like this has happened at other parties many many times before, it took less than a minute to find several other examples here on CSDb.
For us, there were a number of reasons this happened, mostly because the timing worked out. For a new event, there are many risks involved. One of the biggest risks is a lack of release for the competitions. One way to address this is to have your own entry.
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3142 |
organizers can compete and win if they make a better demo than yours, solution is to be better. rest is just whining. ez. |
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Medicus
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 43 |
Why no rule like: "Famous people/groups are not allowed to enter compos because of name-voting"? |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512 |
Quote: Why would that make sense? I don't understand.
because you are the prize giver AND the prize taker.
you gave us examples that this happened many times and it's common practice. I'm not whining nor complaining and I have no problems accepting that.
It'd be cool to have different examples: parties or csdb compos where the organizer says "we cannot win and/or partecipate". |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11164 |
Everything in this thread should be mandatory |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 588 |
Quote: Why no rule like: "Famous people/groups are not allowed to enter compos because of name-voting"?
Also, demos should be neutral in content, not stirring up votes with propaganda and feeling (damn you, Mr.Z, and Gubbdata 2018 :-p). |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 588 |
And... you shouldn't be allowed to gift intros to other groups while trying to win competitions ;-p
Intro for Bonzai |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512 |
Quote: And... you shouldn't be allowed to gift intros to other groups while trying to win competitions ;-p
Intro for Bonzai
uff, you hit below the belt! :) |
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anonym
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 250 |
Quote: Why no rule like: "Famous people/groups are not allowed to enter compos because of name-voting"?
Or: "You cannot enter a compo with a coop demo with lots of groups, as you have more voters for yourself."
I can think of some examples for that too, and one that Padua was involved in ;-)
There also is the rule not to vote for yourself that people are probably still sticking (and correctly so) for diskmags, but what about on CSDb? There the rule is, vote a 10 for yourselves and a 1 for the one who is ranked higher ;-)
Ultimately this started from an illegal cracking scene (with groups like, let's say F4CG ;-) ), so we why would we introduce more rules now, especially that this has become more of a friendly, cooperative scene over the years? Are we German? (well, some of us)...
I don't see myself adding this as a rule to a compo/event I'm setting going forward, even though I get the notion. I want to provide entertainment for the attendees and attract good releases. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11164 |
There are still people who take this voting nonsense serious? =) |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 888 |
Quote: And as for juries:
X'2000 -> Xenon 1st
Hard to find out these days when X started to have a jury and when they decided to abandon that practice, but i'm glad they did eventually. =)
Wondering if I should post, but there you go..
I can't recall if there was still jury voting in 2000, or 1998 was the last time. I believe we won fairly that year, maybe you should check the other entries.
Anyway, if groups can't compete on their own parties, that would be a loss for the scene. Is it fair? Not sure. Unfair? Not sure.
Probably the whole "who won" thing depends on who you ask, so there will always be discussion. |
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