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2024-01-07 05:02
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 771
"BBS Graphics"

So, apparently BBS Graphics is different to PETSCII in that only a portion of the PETSCII charset is used.

However... why is BBS Graphics a "release type"? Every other graphic format is classed as "C64 Graphics" and with a subtype specifying the format (multicolour, hires, PETSCII, FLI, MC+sprites, etc).

Shouldn't BBS Graphics follow the same pattern? It could be a simple change - there are currently on 96 BBS Graphics releases. I suspect that several of those aren't BBS Graphics at all, actually.
 
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2024-01-08 16:47
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 771
Quote: There are only 89 entries marked as "BBS Graphics" so it would be an easy job to change them.

There was 94 or 96 of them when I started the thread so someone’s already updated some.
2024-01-08 16:49
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 771
Quote: If you find a screenshot without borders, always update them.

I just worry about getting shouted at for using the wrong palette… Pepto? Colodore? Which do we use..? I assume the mods’ rule will be: “anything goes if some f***er uploads a screenshot without borders!”?

I don’t want to talk about IFLI screenshots - that’s a whole hornets nest for another thread :-)
2024-01-08 16:54
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
Still beats me why csdb doesn't run a cronjob that would just convert all screenshots to a common palette. Or even check it at upload and complain if wrong. But what do i know :)
2024-01-08 17:00
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 771
Quote: Still beats me why csdb doesn't run a cronjob that would just convert all screenshots to a common palette. Or even check it at upload and complain if wrong. But what do i know :)

Some of the interlace screenshots include more than 16 colours I believe… which is what bothers me. The screenshots in those cases aren’t screenshots at all, they’re imaginary depictions of what the artist believes the picture looks like - as though there’s no flickeriness, as though interlace magically makes 1x1 pixels out of MC images, etc etc.

But as I say, that’s a rant for another day ;)
2024-01-08 17:09
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
Those "merged Screenshots" are just a terrible idea indeed. Just click delete on them and have whoever produce an anigif instead (for many gfx releases also this could be automatic)
2024-01-08 20:11
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1137
Quoting Raistlin
Some of the interlace screenshots include more than 16 colours I believe…

we discussed this on irc recently when we were discussing mc interlace support in png2prg. cjam hacked a quick python tool together to reduce a dirty >16 color screenshot to 16 colors.

https://github.com/staD020/png2prg/tree/master/testdata/madonna
2024-01-08 21:55
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 771
Ohhhhh, very nice! I shall check this out … the dithering looks very nice on the final pic.
2024-01-08 22:04
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
That's even less of a C64 picture though :=)
2024-01-09 00:31
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2475
Though this Fred wandered from GFX CATEGORY to Screenshots (off topic alert), I still wonder which of the images in Burg's git is supposed to be the output / 'role model'?

Personally, of course I see the point in getting rid of 'merged' screenshots pretending sth which is simply never to be seen as such on a real CRT like

or any other IFLI/other fancy Interlace modes and many of their screenshots in the database...

But Quoting 'Raistline'
But as I say, that’s a rant for another day ;)


BTT

Quoting 'ChatGPZ'
If you can print it, it's PETSCII

see: Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition 2013
worked quite well for a decade as a definition - thus, BBS ($D021 $00 and $d018 pointing at locase) would be a subcategory (BBS) of a subcategory (PETSCII) of a category (Graphics)... We're talking about <100 releases... so tbh I rather say dump BBS as category for good instead of making things more complicated than your average CSDb user (uploader) will be able to see through.

*drops da mic keys*
2024-01-09 01:18
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 771
@ChatGPZ: it’s not C64 but is closer to C64 for me than blending the colours to make ones that don’t exist. So I’m not sure.. I tried with an animated GIF on my site - but that’s not great either…

@TheRyk: I think that was everyone’s consensus, to simply remove BBS Graphics - that many of the releases currently set as BBS are actually just PETSCII also demonstrates why that’s the right thing to do ;)
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