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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1088 |
X2016 Competitions: Your Input Wanted!
The 28th of october is still far away but getting closer and closer. The organizers have been getting busy and are now well underway to get everything sorted out for another smashing X!
Since entry delivery and running the compos at X14 went quite smooth and voting is now done in realtime, we believe we may have room for 1 or 2 more (small/fun) c64 competitions. Like a PETSCII compo or a 4k compo, or maybe you guys have an idea?
Or perhaps you think the straightforward demo/music/gfx compos are enough.
Let us know :) |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
Dear Princess Knoeki,
would you mind changing your username? It kills the layout on smaller devices, thank you :) |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
Oh so crashing demos and not showing them again is part of the fun? Yeah that's really sooo cool. Especially for the creatives who spent all the days and nights making them, and who also spent the cash to travel to the party.
The point of creating and showing demos is to admire all the works of art and beauty that is actually possible on the old hardware, not seing them crash. Getting kicks out of a crashing demo is like getting kicks out of smashing sandcastles. To pick up on the live band analogy: It would be like cancelling the rest of a band's performance in case of a technical problem.
So yes, I think prerecording is a very valid way to do it.
To get back on topic, I'd love a 2SID compo, too. :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
Quote: Oh so crashing demos and not showing them again is part of the fun? Yeah that's really sooo cool. Especially for the creatives who spent all the days and nights making them, and who also spent the cash to travel to the party.
The point of creating and showing demos is to admire all the works of art and beauty that is actually possible on the old hardware, not seing them crash. Getting kicks out of a crashing demo is like getting kicks out of smashing sandcastles. To pick up on the live band analogy: It would be like cancelling the rest of a band's performance in case of a technical problem.
So yes, I think prerecording is a very valid way to do it.
To get back on topic, I'd love a 2SID compo, too. :)
Actually you're saying that's better to prerecord the whole live and show a video to avoid tech problems or errors during live execution.
The only correct thing to do is to test before actual show, or bring your own hw where you know it works. |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying, because it's not that a demo is different every time, as in a human live performance.
There is no actual visual or audible difference in replaying the program on a compo machine and replaying a 1:1 recording of the program from a compo machine.
The only difference would be in case of a technical failure, and I don't see where that would ever be beneficial. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
It becomes a major feature of you despise recordings for religious reasons :) |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
lol Groepaz :D
There is no argument against religion. I rest my case. |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 519 |
video recording could make sense at a party with multi platform compos. so organizers don't have to deal with 25 different hardware and hundreds of cables.
But at X... if a demo crashes live at the show it means it could crash on your own c64, so despite all the efforts in making it it also means it's probably not 100% and pre-recording it's just some kind of cheating.
Anyway all this is offtopic: mighty Burglar said we should discuss about 1-2 new compo ideas, not about pre-recording yes/no. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335 |
Prerecording is not that necessary in normal X enviro, true that. I was referring to this mainly because of optional 2SID compo, where at least 4 different configs are taken into account. |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271 |
When our demo bugged at datastorm due to bad floppys it was horrible, but at the same time it also added charm in a way... haha... I like X the way it is. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 945 |
We're getting older, floppies are getting older, chances of a heart attack from a bad floppy are increasing. \o/ Another argument against pre-recording. |
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