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2024-02-01 16:54
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 500
An update on ‘Pixel art in the C64 demoscene’

Dear fellow sceners,

In response to the comments we received, we’ve made some changes to the document.
Our goal was always to find common ground to maintain the fun and integrity of our hobby.

What this is not:
- It’s not written to limit anyone (only to encourage openness)
- It’s not aimed at specific individuals (it’s a scene wide practice)

Read the document here

We’d really love to hear your thoughts on this update.
Please post them in this thread, be kind and keep it constructive and on-topic please.
 
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2024-02-04 18:49
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
Yes, indeed, all of that :)
2024-02-04 19:02
zzarko

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 77
I am no artist by any means, as I have zero talent for graphics and music, nor I try to represent myself as one. I am here because it is fun, I like fiddling with old computers, their software, old and new. I enjoy watching demos, pictures, listening to music. I do not judge nor vote, as I do not consider myself neither important enough to do so nor that I have qualifications to do it.

So, as someone who is here for fun, here is my two cents on the topic if anyone cares:
Always Look On A Bright Side Of Life

Sorry for posting here, I think I understand both points of view, but I really feel a bit sad to see so many wonderful people arguing about stuff that, at least for me, is supposed to be enjoyable thing to do and share...
2024-02-04 19:17
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 297
Quote:
When I read this, I want to rebel against the arbiters of good taste - even if they may have valid points.
I think that’s why the document has been posted here in a forum. So that the authors can see what people think, get help how to better phrase the thing. Posts like yours are very helpful in this respect.
2024-02-04 20:49
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
That said, IMHO it would be a very good idea to replace all that "we expect..." by "we encourage...", "it would be nice to...", "we prefer..." or something like this.

And it should perhaps even mention that doing those things is perfectly fine, and normal, in the learning process.

The key point to me is "don't pretend to have done something that you didn't". Not how it was done.
2024-02-04 20:59
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 297
@ChatGPZ : make sure you’re reading the v2 doc. There are no “we expect”s. It’s all “we believe” and “we encourage”.
2024-02-04 21:02
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
I am looking at the link in the first post - is there another? (eg the bullet points after "It will often be the case that:")
Ok these are compo rules. Fine
2024-02-04 21:22
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3065
Quoting Groepaz
don't pretend to have done something that you didn't.


Carve in stone!
2024-02-04 22:46
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
Quote:
The key point to me is "don't pretend to have done something that you didn't". Not how it was done.


The first point is the key. Encouraging transparency is because if someone doesn't volunteer the information, the audience will often just assume they did it all themselves
2024-02-05 06:28
ws

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 251
Do not adorn yourselves outwardly [...] , but adorn yourselves inwardly with the lasting beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in God's sight.
Source: 1 Peter 3:3-5

𝕭𝖎𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝖈𝖔𝖓𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖙 𝖉𝖊𝖙𝖊𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓, 𝖆 𝖘𝖊𝖗𝖛𝖎𝖈𝖊 𝖇𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖙𝖔 𝖞𝖔𝖚 𝖇𝖞 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖈𝖍𝖚𝖗𝖈𝖍 𝖔𝖋 𝖘𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓.
2024-02-22 13:24
rexbeng

Registered: Aug 2012
Posts: 37
Here's an interesting watch, about the ongoing relation between art and technology and the ethics involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOFBAJStuk8
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