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2019-05-20 23:02
fieserWolF

Registered: May 2003
Posts: 4
csdb browsing feature: similar productions

Just an idea: wouldn't it be awesome if we had some kind of "you might also like"-feature when looking at an entry on csdb? Don't know how to implement it, but browsing csdb through similar prods would be hours of fun. Don't you think?
2019-05-21 00:09
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting fieserWolF
wouldn't it be awesome if [...] Don't know how to implement it, but
Nuff said, i'd say.
2019-05-21 01:03
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Or maybe not enough, might have come across a little assholey.

But think of commercial platforms with huge userbases. It appears that "similarity" is a pretty subjective concept with artistic works like movies or music, and even those huge platforms need to rely on human editors once their algorithms quickly reach their limits, despite the aforementioned huge userbases and logged sales, views, or clicks.
2019-05-21 14:06
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5110
nice idea, the algo could look for what releases same user looked at close in time. or releases with similar authors, etc.
2019-05-21 15:13
phvse

Registered: Mar 2019
Posts: 2
maybe introduce a tagging option when adding new releases, so the 'you might also like' feature could be based on tags.
only problem is that previous releases would have to be tagged retroactively.
2019-05-21 20:15
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5110
yeah tags are on the whishlist since like 10-15 years :) problem is Perff is the only one who can change the code, and he mostly lost interest in adding new features, plus its an unmaintainable spaghette from what I gathered.
2019-05-21 21:59
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
You want productions by the same coder, musician or graphic artist... it's already there.
You want productions with the same music... thanks to the busy souls putting in HVSC links, that's quite possible, too.

CSDb hardly has enough vote data to implement a "you might also like" feature that goes anywhere beyond the Top XYZ we already have -- we barely have 700 Demos and One-File Demos each that qualify for an above average (>= 7) rating, not to mention that a lot of the newer productions tend to get voted rather high with a lot of older productions struggling to even get the required 5 votes.

But that's not "similar productions", so... what kind of "similarity" would you expect?

Here are another 2573 productions that have: "logo over rasterbars with scroller" ;-)
2019-05-21 22:51
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting Seven
what kind of "similarity" would you expect?
Indeed, what kind of computable metric could be used there?

I think it'd be more sensible to have users create something akin to ordered playlists of favourites, which other users could browse.

But then again, CSDb isn't likely to add any more complex features, as it seems that due to some kind of deadlock nobody is willing and/or allowed to sanitise the code.
2019-05-22 01:11
Mr.Ammo
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228
Quoting Krill
Quoting Seven
what kind of "similarity" would you expect?
Indeed, what kind of computable metric could be used there
The only thing I can think of are votes since that's the only user input CSDb has which shows how well users like or do not like a release.

However, for it to somewhat work, it does require honest and a lot more voting.

A quick count of the votes:
169,659 <- number of releases
 11,981 <- number of releases with 5 or more votes
153,261 <- total amount of votes for releases with 5 or more votes                                  
7.49    <- average score  of the CSDb scores                                          
-- there are some releases deleted, but I didn't exclude them in these numbers.
Quoting Krill
But then again, CSDb isn't likely to add any more complex features, as it seems that due to some kind of deadlock nobody is willing and/or allowed to sanitise the code.
Indeed, that seems to be the status quo.
2019-05-22 08:25
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 446
Could use TensorFlow (from Google) and train images from certain graphicians/demos and then use it to match "visually close" releases.
I might be able to make a small PoC.
2019-05-22 08:48
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
"Visually close"... look, all these images use close to the same 16 colors ;-D
 
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