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2007-12-19 00:57
Rough
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Cracked tools

Cracked (commercial) tools/applications (mainly from the start of the C64 era) should be filed under C64 CRACKS, not C64 TOOLS.
 
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2007-12-19 14:05
Oswald

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having moderators with the attitude like wreg or groepaz is priceless.
2007-12-19 14:15
chatGPZ

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same for users who start the very same discussion in every second thread :)

\o/
2007-12-20 10:50
Rough
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Sooner or later all resistance will fail and CSDb will expand to everything concerning 64, I bet on that. Hehehe
2007-12-20 11:26
Trazan

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(The discussion is still about cracked tools should be listed as Cracks or not. Not about if CSDB is going to list Commodore Tshirts and bumperstickers as entires)

2007-12-20 15:11
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
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Technically cracked tools are also Cracks but I don't think they should be listed as such unless an option is introduced to tag them as tools.
I don't know about you, but I sometimes search for tools here.
It helps if the tools are tagged as tools.
2008-01-03 18:02
Rough
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Actually cracked tools are commercial utilities like Paint Magic/Datamost (Jedi), FCopy 3/Thomas Tempelmann (Crackman) etc., it we see them as tool entries they shouldn't be in CSDb at all, as they are NON-SCENE RELEASES like the infamous games discussion showed yet the majority dislikes those added.

therefore these should be filed as crack (.crt of Music Maker or .d64 of Paint Magic original shouldnt according to the rules be here at all..they are not btw.)

then there's plenty of tools by scene people like Sinus Sculpt by 2000 A.D., Dirmaster/Faces etc.

therefore those should be filed as tools

pretty simple.

2008-01-04 02:27
Tim
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oh my..

Some of you are actually seriously considering to count cracked tools as cracks just for the sake of bending the rules and allowing them into csdb?

What an idea.. I see a whole revival of diskmags that were only popular because 1 chapter: the cracking charts..

I thought I’d seen it all.. basic games getting points, seuck games getting point but now a whole new generation of action replay crackers can now, besides hunting for previously unreleased 80’s games actually go hunt and introlink tools just to make sure that they can be admitted into CSDB and get 0.1 to 0.5 points (I’m guessing here.. this calls for new standards) in the mags.

Wow.. ‘ brilliant ‘ (just incase someone doesn’t read into the sarcasm

I never understood the non tolerance of commercial releases and personally I think they should be tolerated, but .. well, if it’s not a scene release it then should not be here like rough says.

I am so (?) looking forward to the next example of how ‘scene’ is defined to a release as I’m sure it’s only going to get more fun.. next up maybe.. intro linking commercial demomakers, perhaps ntsc fixing diskfilers/editors, I could go on forever, but that would be trolling ;)
2008-01-04 08:39
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:

Some of you are actually seriously considering to count cracked tools as cracks just for the sake of bending the rules and allowing them into csdb?


so cracked tools aren't cracks? or what are you trying to say? :)
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