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2012-03-10 10:22
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Tags (yet again)

It is still unbeknownst to me why tags weren't implemented yet, or why are some so stubbornly against it. This portal is almost completely based on IMDb, and tags are one of the most useful features on that site.

Just a few of the useful features it would bring:

- finding demos containing an effect, record, theme...
- finding musics with a specific style, instrument, musical technique...
- finding images with a certain motive, character, technique, color-sceme...
- finding a specific usage of a tool/utility
- finding a magazine with an article about XY
- etc. etc...

It wouldn't take more than an hour to implement: another textbox on the "add comments" page with the Tags label (separated with commas) -> parsing the field and popping it out on the profile-page (as links, so if I'd click on a tag, I'd be redirected to a search-results page with a list of all those products where the same or similar tag was present).

Of course it wouldn't work right away, populating would certainly take some time. Just as everything else on this site.

Any thoughts? And in case of another instant rejection, I'd definitely love to get a bit more reasonable answer than the usual "I don't think we need it. Oh, and look here's my middle finger too. thxbai"
 
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2012-03-11 13:26
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187
"- the majority (if not all) of the users are actually in favor of it"
You're imagining things. I don't see THAT much people yelling for it actually.
I really wonder if the people asking for it would spend their time filling the tags everywhere, because you know, they don't fill by themselves. Once implemented someone has to do the job. Current situation is that 1% of csdb users actually enter useful infos, rest just whine all day doing absolutely nothing.
2012-03-11 14:13
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
yes np i will do my 80 odd entries, maybe Bob and dokks and Sits too. Pete I am sure will tag all the MT stuff and possibly between us begin tagging the released at CNET stuff.

perhaps (gasp) people on here could actually be encouraged to tag their own stuff.

maybe, just maybe most folks on here are just so sick of being shouted down by the negative bastards for 12 years, that they just don't want to stick their heads above the parapet any more?

How many people have said no? just one. that does not mean to say the rest are against it. It just means to say they have been beaten into submission by a certain vocal minority on here.

and some of us haven't :P

2012-03-11 14:14
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: "- the majority (if not all) of the users are actually in favor of it"
You're imagining things. I don't see THAT much people yelling for it actually.
I really wonder if the people asking for it would spend their time filling the tags everywhere, because you know, they don't fill by themselves. Once implemented someone has to do the job. Current situation is that 1% of csdb users actually enter useful infos, rest just whine all day doing absolutely nothing.


Not yelling for it now that's for sure, but no one except Groepaz stood up against it so vehemently.

And once again: why is bare minimal info worse than no info at all? If half of the 1% of CSDb users who actually enter useful infos would enter some tag-data as well, I'd already call it a success.

Nevertheless, there's a huge common set of CSDb users and active C64 sceners who can't find the time to participate in maintaining the database as they're busy with other C64 related activities, BUT would like to use an accessible, user friendly, familiar platform where their works are presented to the general public. Some of the moderators constantly forget this. Hence the reactions you and the mods label as "whining".
2012-03-11 15:00
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
I could see myself adding a lot of tags, if it's not implemented in a userunfriendly way where you have to go throuh 3 steps that each take 10 seconds to load for each tag you wanna add.
2012-03-11 15:10
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: I could see myself adding a lot of tags, if it's not implemented in a userunfriendly way where you have to go throuh 3 steps that each take 10 seconds to load for each tag you wanna add.

Same here. I'd most definitely go through a lot of the graphics entries and tag them, I am commenting and voting for them constantly anyway.

The way of tagging as I described seems quite straight-forward and fast to me. But suggestions are always welcome!
2012-03-11 15:24
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255
Here's another +1 for tags.

I would certainly spend time adding tags to releases I've been involved with, not to mention adding tags to releases I've found the hard way when it could have taken a second or two using tags, just to help the next guys out.
2012-03-11 15:29
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
There are no cons. Period.
2012-03-11 16:45
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424
There's just no argument against tags. They're a common household item these days.
2012-03-11 17:59
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
I tag along aswell.

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2012-03-11 18:27
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359
Quote:
but you often seem to completely forget that the site is actually based on hundreds, if not thousands of people

you are a bit naive there. 99% of the work here is done by about 1% of the csdb users. (you know who you are)

and thats why unless *these* users speak up, there is little chance for tags (or anything else really) turn into something useful. and thats why i am against it - i'd rather spend my time on supporting this handful users that actually does something useful. (one of them already spoke up - not to your consent however)
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