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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980 |
Release id #248155 : Hiking Home for Christmas
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
Quote:For some reason the drama is mostly about gfx lately. I can't recall any recent debate about coding.
Mindlessly jerking around with "AI" prompt-to-image tools, then converting the result, then collaging the chunks like you were half blind, then shifting a few (or a few hundred) pixels manually earns you top positions at some gfx compos these days. For rave reviews and ratings here, often you don't even have to shift any pixels manually. There are people that have no clue that this happens, there are people who just don't care. And there are people that are disappointed by this state of things at this mature age of the scene. So, drama.
Now, when "AI" starts churning out lame, ugly, half-assed demos that you'll immediately recognize for the crap they are, and when that demos start getting top spots in compos and rave reviews here, then the code drama will happen.
Although I saw certain someone getting kinda dramatic over the use of the word "demomaker". ;-)
But, let's talk about animations vs. realtime. |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
Quote: I also second Gröpaz' assertion that nobody is required to disclose their process and perfectly justified to ignore such demands.
This! |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
Quote: Quoting CopAssThey must have "good" reasons for hiding the creating process.
Those who are honest won't make a problem out of it.
It probably has to do with the accusations w/o proof you post in many threads, the swear words and general awful behavior.
And then you expect everybody to dance to your tune. LOL
The words I quoted from you are a perfect example, you basically claim that everybody who does not answer to your demands is dishonest. But you forget nobody has any obligation to answer to you.
The way you and a very small amount of others keep screaming, keep misbehaving and keep destroying every thread about graphics is very off-putting and very far from general scene ethics.
You need to learn how to bring your ideas without blame and attacks and without virtue signalling. You'll be much more effective this way.
And this! |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244 |
Quoting 4gentE...
Although I saw certain someone getting kinda dramatic over the use of the word "demomaker". ;-)
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Don't you worry, Sherlock Zero will track them all down!
BTT :) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1101 |
Quoting TheRykAbout cracking: Is it bad if someone uses a disassembler or VICE Mon? I don't think so.
cracking with vice mon is lame, it's much easier with breakpoints and full memory access (incl stack, zp, cia timers, nmi, etc etc) than doing it on the real thing with just a cartridge. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980 |
Quoting BurglarQuoting TheRykAbout cracking: Is it bad if someone uses a disassembler or VICE Mon? I don't think so.
cracking with vice mon is lame, it's much easier with breakpoints and full memory access (incl stack, zp, cia timers, nmi, etc etc) than doing it on the real thing with just a cartridge. Joke's on the copy protection allowing for an easy-to-image disk, then! :) |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
Quote: Quoting TheRykAbout cracking: Is it bad if someone uses a disassembler or VICE Mon? I don't think so.
cracking with vice mon is lame, it's much easier with breakpoints and full memory access (incl stack, zp, cia timers, nmi, etc etc) than doing it on the real thing with just a cartridge.
you are right. same with ntsc / pal fixing.
its way much easier than it used to be in the 80s / 90s. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1101 |
Quoting Peacemakeryou are right. same with ntsc / pal fixing.
its way much easier than it used to be in the 80s / 90s. everything is much easier :)
and now we have this damn AI that makes everything too easy! :P |
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CopAss
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 21 |
Quote: Quoting CopAssThey must have "good" reasons for hiding the creating process.
Those who are honest won't make a problem out of it.
It probably has to do with the accusations w/o proof you post in many threads, the swear words and general awful behavior.
And then you expect everybody to dance to your tune. LOL
The words I quoted from you are a perfect example, you basically claim that everybody who does not answer to your demands is dishonest. But you forget nobody has any obligation to answer to you.
The way you and a very small amount of others keep screaming, keep misbehaving and keep destroying every thread about graphics is very off-putting and very far from general scene ethics.
You need to learn how to bring your ideas without blame and attacks and without virtue signalling. You'll be much more effective this way.
@Burglar: what kind of ethics are you talking about?! wtf?!:D
These are facts: everyone knows, has seen, and it has been proven that they are cheating.
Yet nothing happens, because "art is free" and then everything is fine!:D
But apart from the fact that it "appears" that these are made from AI generated images, it can now be detected with very good efficiency.
This is the most accurate one at the moment: https://sightengine.com/detect-ai-generated-images
Yeah, and then we call this evidence. It's free, you can try it.
The result will be quite surprising.
https://ibb.co/Gxm55Ps
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 369 |
@ CopAss
Interesting (a bit at least)...
You could test the graphics here aswell, because they are 100% AI Converts iirc:
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