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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4720 |
Release id #158304 : Heil Hitler
Submitted by hedning [PM] on 23 August 2017
Moving the comments to the discussion soon.
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Submitted by Seven [PM] on 23 August 2017
So let me get that right. You're on the forefront deleting "cracks" in the database, but distributing nazi propaganda is part of the scene?
How about you put that shit on your beloved boards and remove it here then.
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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 23 August 2017
Well. It's part of the scene history, just as all other disturbing shit. I bet you can find countries where nudes and porn are banned - should we delete all that too? Disclaimer: germans - don't download this. You probably know your own laws. Just like you shouldn't google "Heil Hitler" etc in Germany.
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Submitted by fieserWolF [PM] on 23 August 2017
Stop distributing this shit. Also, illegal to have this on your computer or phone in Germany |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: I understand that to be out of respect as the (hobbyist) creators are usually known here, the circles are small, as are the sales. And it's a time-delay mechanism so that the stuff will eventually be put on download, unlike censoring a release for good.
The same can be said about old nazi releases made by some dumb teenager. Imo it would only have to be censored to protect the creator. We don't know if the creator is still a nazi-douche or has evolved into a left winged punk-head. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Right, then we get into the "right to be forgotten" vs. history integrity argument.
Not having any idea, how common are deletions by request due to the release itself containing personally identifying information here? |
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Fix
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 54 |
Maybe a Note or Disclaimer before downloading disturbing releases that are propaganda, porn or similar? |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2218 |
I don't get why the discussion keeps digressing into the points
- law <- Cracking scene has always been kinda "lawless", anyone who thinks downloading cracks can by any means be declared legal, is naive, our blessing is, no one cares about some thousand weirdos who still fuck around with 30 something years old systems
- moral <- I hope(!) that 99 + x % of all visitors, registered or not, find Nazi messages disgusting (though I can still only judge from the title)
What we're dealing with is alone the question:
Should offending stuff be deleted or archived?
My point of view is pretty clearly the latter, as I think, you can also overdo political correctness. This thread already shows via entry links that the consequence would be endless discussion about entries EVERYONE had on disk back then, no matter how immature/disgusting/politically incorrect they might have been or be in the aftermath. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186 |
I want all robric tunes deleted, they offend my sensibility. |
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White Flame
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 136 |
I permanently switched over to ZX Spectrum and now everything C64 related is offensive on the highest order. Remove this entire site or else. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
Quote:how common are deletions by request due to the release itself containing personally identifying information here?
i dont remember any from my moderator times. i am pretty sure they would be turned down too. (i know we banned people who tried to edit their history into their liking) |
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Zierliches Püppchen
Registered: Jan 2012
Posts: 14 |
Oh great discussion,
But hey, who cares the political color of an 1986 release ... its part of c64 history.
Removing myself from social media is one of my favorite acts @moment. Time to remove the next account ... i am off. |
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Claus_2015
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 53 |
My current favorite act: posting about my social media boycott :-D |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
Wanna join our anti surveillance facebook group? |
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