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2008-01-10 11:56
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Why is editing/deleting old comments enabled?

Noticed a few times when deletion/editing of old comments resulted quite funny/annoying/baffling comment-threads.
Is there a special reason for this being enabled?
 
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2008-01-10 13:32
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11366
personally i'd merge the "comments" and "discuss this entry" feature.
2008-01-10 14:05
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Quote: The main reason was that when we first made CSDb comments was supposed to be single personal oppinions about that entry. It wasn't supposed to be used for questions or discussions, but that is what happened.
So editing and deleting comments shouldn't have a big influence as comments wasn't supposed to be connected in any way, and one might change his mind about an entry, so..

But now that the comments are more (to my disliking) used as a tiny discussion forum for each entry, you are right that editing/deleting makes little sense.

So I guess I must give up in the hope that comments are used the way they should be, and remove the edit/delete feature?


how about only allowing one comment per person per release.
2008-01-10 14:56
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
TDJ: hmm, perhaps you could place your temporary questions to the "Production Notes" area (and leave this page editable)?

Quoting Oswaldbogár
how about only allowing one comment per person per release.

That will probably lead to a lot of frustration :)

I still think the best way is to disable the feature. Or to merge it with the forum, as Groepaz suggested.
2008-01-10 15:36
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1089
Quote:
how about only allowing one comment per person per release.


Quote:
That will probably lead to a lot of frustration :)


yes. but good frustration (ie: "I cant have a discussion in the comments when I can only comment once!")

I'm not in favor of disabling stuff right away just because a few ppl abuse something.
2008-01-10 15:50
saehn
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Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 44
Quote: The main reason was that when we first made CSDb comments was supposed to be single personal oppinions about that entry. It wasn't supposed to be used for questions or discussions, but that is what happened.
So editing and deleting comments shouldn't have a big influence as comments wasn't supposed to be connected in any way, and one might change his mind about an entry, so..

But now that the comments are more (to my disliking) used as a tiny discussion forum for each entry, you are right that editing/deleting makes little sense.

So I guess I must give up in the hope that comments are used the way they should be, and remove the edit/delete feature?


A communication system should meet user requirements... the users shouldn't have to meet system requirements ;).

People seem to like communicating via this method. If edits are disabled, the potential for abuse goes down and the database maintains historic integrity. If someone wants to "revise" a previous statement, that can easily be accomplished via a follow-up comment.

2008-01-10 15:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11366
Quote:

If someone wants to "revise" a previous statement, that can easily be accomplished via a follow-up comment.


exactly. letting users edit past statements is an invitation for various malicious things.
2008-01-10 16:16
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1089
Quote: Quote:

If someone wants to "revise" a previous statement, that can easily be accomplished via a follow-up comment.


exactly. letting users edit past statements is an invitation for various malicious things.


why do you always focus on malicious things and ppl abusing everything?

99% of the users don't do anything malicious and don't abuse anything. just limit access to the crappy 1% (no edit/delete comment rights) and be done with it.

it's a bit of an american way of handling things. (and no that is not a compliment;)
2008-01-10 19:21
assiduous
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343
Please let me know in advance as soon as you've decided to disable this feature so that I can delete my comments beforehand. alot of them are pertaining to emulation bugs and I was hoping that as emulators improve with time i would be able to update my comments.
2008-01-10 20:04
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: Please let me know in advance as soon as you've decided to disable this feature so that I can delete my comments beforehand. alot of them are pertaining to emulation bugs and I was hoping that as emulators improve with time i would be able to update my comments.

Solution A: add another comment stating that the bug was fixed
Solution B: add a comment to the Production Notes area - hopefully edit would be still enabled there (looking in the way of Perff)
Solution C: if noone added a comment after yours, it would be still editable (just as it is on the forum) - at least I think so
2008-01-11 14:17
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
What about making comments replyable?

Like... you can respond to a comment or add a new one.
And when a response is given to a certain comment, that comment is not editable/deletable anymore.

In short: a comment can end up becoming a thread.

(For people who can read Dutch (or like to see what I mean without understanding what is said on the page): something like the frontpage of Tweakers (click a news item to see what I mean))

In the process, you can remove the link to the general forum ('discuss this ...').
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