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2009-02-08 21:57
Sequencer
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What editors are PPL using now?

Hey. So I haven't coded a chiptune properly for C-64 since the mid 90s (I've used a hardsid in midi, a sidstation, and (gasp) quadrasid emulation but all mainly in recorded work). But now I am thinking it would be fun to make some new tracks, and some old friends are starting to ask me for them...

So, the last time I really did anything it was in JCH Editor (v17-19 range, I think... it is all foggy now). I'm curious to hear what people are using now and what enhancements have been made. I'm sorry if this is a redundant topic somewhere else --

I've dabbled with GoatTracker. Found it a bit off. But one thing I did like, that wasn't present in JCH editor was the sort of ability to vastly modify the instrument within the pattern data. For example, changing filter mode/cutoff/resonance within the voices vs. having to make one or several sweeping instrument definitions.

I had messed a little bit with multi-speed editing (x3), which at the time was a pain.

I'm also pretty interested in some of what has happened with C-64 + sample playback. I saw an impressive demo of something like a MOD or XM playing on C64, and then being post processed through the filter.

Anyway, curious to hear what people are using and why.
 
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2009-02-16 09:27
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Quoting sequencer
Also I've always found the absolute reliance on a wavetable for chord data to place an annoying

SDI has this "Apreggio Table" feature, where you can define Arpreggio programs in a table and then access them from the pattern editor.
You can also still put the arpreggio notes directly into the wavetable program of the instrument if you like.

2009-02-16 09:28
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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I'd love to see some SDI tutorial video, like the one I have for CubaseSX...

The program looks like it should be close to the perfect composing tool yet I fail to understand how it works!
2009-02-16 09:34
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
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You can catch me on IRC #c-64 if you would like to ask anything about SDI.
I'm not the best SID Composer out there and some things about SDI still puzzle me a bit, but I've been using it since 2006 for about every day.

I was thinking about doing a screenvid of me making a tune one day.
2009-02-16 14:19
SIDWAVE
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Quote: I'd love to see some SDI tutorial video, like the one I have for CubaseSX...

The program looks like it should be close to the perfect composing tool yet I fail to understand how it works!


SDI really is one of the easiest editors there is, because of the 'logical' key choises to use, and the good manual - as i say to anyone starting: do the example sounds in the manual, and you will soon be making your first tune!

yeah, and instruction video, could be cool to make.

I just need to hook it up, so i can record my speech, along with the VICE mpeg recording. Then it should be nice.
2009-02-16 14:49
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
I second Mace here. A SDI basics video would be _very_ much appreciated. I have had some excellent tutoring from my man Stainless Steel, but long IRC sessions is not easy with my current family situation. And before you say RTFM: I already did, and still...
2009-02-16 19:51
Dane
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Tutorial videos? Blasphemy!

I remember the good old days when Twoflower and I spent countless hours trying to decipher the KEEPITSECRET!!1!-version of the JCH-editor. Maybe that experience is the reason I am still stuck to that particular tool. :)
2009-02-16 21:12
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
...not forgetting all the JCH-editor tunes that were haphazardly depacked by hand just to gain some (if any!) understanding of that damned thing - and just think of all those times it simply crashed in a mysterious way, shutting off one voice. At times I recall the warm thoughts of that editor as being "the green zeroes of random mystery, just waiting to be uncovered". :-)
2009-02-16 21:24
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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I remember the good old days when I could sit behind a computer 80 hours a week, without a wife & kid complaining...

Today I have to use my time a little more efficient ;-)
2009-02-17 04:15
SIDWAVE
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I remember 1987, sitting at night with soundmonitor by Hülsbeck, pressing F7 to record, keep on for 1 hour, save, pack demo, copy disk, out it was! over and done in 1 night!

Now, its endless bytecoding, finetuning, vibrato depth my ass etc. :(


:-)
2009-02-17 05:16
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 462
you should have seen the endless bytecoding, finetuning, vibrato depth my ass by Jammer. out it is, and done in one night. a matter of practice, i suppose.

:)

now let's see how the 20 km run in biathlon world championships goes, Bjoerndalen or Sikora, or Tchoudov perhaps
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