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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4720 |
Release id #158304 : Heil Hitler
Submitted by hedning [PM] on 23 August 2017
Moving the comments to the discussion soon.
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Submitted by Seven [PM] on 23 August 2017
So let me get that right. You're on the forefront deleting "cracks" in the database, but distributing nazi propaganda is part of the scene?
How about you put that shit on your beloved boards and remove it here then.
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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 23 August 2017
Well. It's part of the scene history, just as all other disturbing shit. I bet you can find countries where nudes and porn are banned - should we delete all that too? Disclaimer: germans - don't download this. You probably know your own laws. Just like you shouldn't google "Heil Hitler" etc in Germany.
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Submitted by fieserWolF [PM] on 23 August 2017
Stop distributing this shit. Also, illegal to have this on your computer or phone in Germany |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186 |
If anything offends you, or your "laws", well, look away. You can't apply local rules to an international site.
And cracks are not deleted, just hidden for some time. After that time, they get visible again. Infact it's _REQUIRED_ to upload the crack and make it invisible if it's the case, if you want a new crack entry in here. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: Censorship is fascism. Just because Germany has stupid rules doesn't mean it should apply to the rest of us.
word! Hiding Nazi propaganda wont help avoiding the rise of neo-nazis. Only education, history and removal of poverty and misery will. |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
Quote:Submitted by Seven [PM] on 23 August 2017
but distributing nazi propaganda is part of the scene? How about you put that shit on your beloved boards and remove it here then.
a release.. from 1986... HAHAHAHA. what took you over 30 years to complain? are we now going to revisit every single damn release in this database, proofread every scroll and screen of text because it might offend someone? this is utterly ridiculous and truly pathetic on a grand scale. don't like the release? too damn bad for you. why should it be deleted? 30 years after it was released? there is no reason at all to justify a sad and pathetic attempt at censorship.
卍卍卍卍 I'm tempted to just name anything I make from now on as HITLER and throw in NAZI symbolism in everywhere I can just to piss you off! :D 卍卍卍卍
Quote:Submitted by fieserWolF [PM] on 23 August 2017
Stop distributing this shit. Also, illegal to have this on your computer or phone in Germany
卍 leave germany. problem: solved. 卍
this is how far we've progressed? 2017: it offends me! delete it from the face of the earth!
gtfo xD
this is not the right way to run a historical database. censorship of any kind should not be tolerated in any way whatsoever by anyone, no matter how offensive it may be to you or anyone else that disagrees with its subject matter or content.
please restore the link, hedning. don't let these weak pansies dictate how things should be run.
Quoting JackAsserPlease remove the following also:
Piccolo Mouso
you bastard! ;) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186 |
adam: that's the buddhist symbol of peace, it's used to indicate temples in the maps; the swastika is oriented the other way. JFYI |
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202 |
Somebody seems to think that CSDb has existed since 1986 and can't tell when a release has been added to a database just recently.
Good talk. |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
Quoting SevenSomebody seems to think that CSDb has existed since 1986 and can't tell when a release has been added to a database just recently.
Good talk.
let's see what i wrote..
Quote:a release.. from 1986... HAHAHAHA. what took you over 30 years to complain?
nope, nothing there that says csdb existed 30 years ago?
so because it was uploaded recently, that is your piss weak excuse for censorship? are you kidding?
if you don't like it, leave. why should we have to put up with censorship such as this? because you and that other fascist are offended? get real. |
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The Overkiller
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342 |
These are part of the C64 Scene so nothing should be deleted, and I remark n o t h i n g |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Quote: word! Hiding Nazi propaganda wont help avoiding the rise of neo-nazis. Only education, history and removal of poverty and misery will.
Right. Whatever's forbidden is more alluring. Can even remember some teachers' kneejerk reactions from school when a kid happened to draw a swastika, rational & calm approach to educate why that's nothing to idolize would've likely worked better. |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 447 |
tldr: someone did a bad taste demo 30 years ago and it got added to the db now. So what? JackAsser is right.
There are many unfortunate events in the past, but they are freely discussed in historical texts. Also there are some c-64 productions that are immature, ignorant and in bad taste. Very few productions that I've seen I'd consider hateful. They also exist here for historical reference. What would be the point of hiding/denying their existence? Surely no-one sane, that sees 30 year demo is going to go rampant just because of a demo? I really worry about someone that would be willing to kill just for an idea that they read from a 30 year old demo. Why did not the ww2 history documentary trigger this action? or perhaps a thousand or two thousand year old writing?
Meaning is an observer effect. Nowadays people get offended about everything and immediately blame others for what they feel. That is just illogical and wrong. Some choose to accept an alternative reality or an ideological bubble and remain resentful toward everyone else as they themselves are unable to deal with the reality.
Please, accept the past and present in all its rawness and ugliness and life of everyone will be much easier. Read history and learn about all the mistakes made and accept that they really did happen, and now that we have learned from them, we may avoid the mistake in the future.
But, if this really is about obeying the law, then I suppose that the laws of the country that has the servers, or that of the EU, apply? |
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lft
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369 |
Quote:Surely no-one sane (...) would be willing to kill just for an idea that they read from (...) a thousand or two thousand year old writing?
Pardon me for quoting in such a barbaric way, but I'd like to point out that the above happens all the time. But censorship isn't the answer to that problem either.
Many people have a strong instinct to try to erase ideas that they perceive as immoral. The civil way to go about it is to leave the ideas out in the open, and counter them with arguments. A constructive way forward could be to add a comment on the release, with a link to some sensible online anti-nazism resource. |
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