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2024-12-14 20:29
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
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Release id #248202 : AIrrested

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2024-12-16 15:06
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2244
The only new aspects mentioned here were
Quoting '4gentE'
destroy the livelihoods of people doing creative work

or in other words
Quoting 'Hate Bush'

people losing jobs is altogether a separate problem.

This might be the true explanation why certain people keep being so obsessed with the topic, a few of them might do gfx/design for a living and thus, have a very critical attitude towards AI as they fear being replaced.

If that's true or not, well, who can tell...
At the bottom of every innovation there's "Video killed the radio star" whining...

Quoting Raistlin
So the "Hiking Home For Christmas" thread was closed due to everything going off-topic .. and now the conversation continues here.

I'm not seeing things moving forward and I'm not even sure what the argument is any more ..

Me neither.

Everyone tried to make their points on the still hot topic of AI and C=64 gfx.

How about giving mods some rest and continuing AI debating in 2025?
2024-12-16 15:13
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
Demomaker.
2024-12-16 15:28
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275
" At the bottom of every innovation there's "Video killed the radio star" whining..."

computer killed the typewriter industry :(
2024-12-16 18:53
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146
I BET PEOPLE IN 2025 WON'T EVEN WRITE THEIR OWN LOADERS AND CRUNCHERS ANYMORE!! AND THEY WILL USE PHOTOSHOPS AND WACOMS FOR PIXELLING
2024-12-16 18:57
CopAss

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 21
Quoting mankeli
I BET PEOPLE IN 2025 WON'T EVEN WRITE THEIR OWN LOADERS AND CRUNCHERS ANYMORE!! AND THEY WILL USE PHOTOSHOPS AND WACOMS FOR PIXELLING

which is usually written in the credits, what they use...
the problem is with those who deny everything, citing their "talent".
2024-12-16 19:00
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275
Quote: Quoting mankeli
I BET PEOPLE IN 2025 WON'T EVEN WRITE THEIR OWN LOADERS AND CRUNCHERS ANYMORE!! AND THEY WILL USE PHOTOSHOPS AND WACOMS FOR PIXELLING

which is usually written in the credits, what they use...
the problem is with those who deny everything, citing their "talent".


never gave credits to the guy who made the crunchers :(
2024-12-16 19:40
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146
Yeah, loader author seems to be often credited. At one prod I tried to credit also music routine author, and the petscii editor author. But should I then credit the cruncher author, the assembler author (well that's easy because it's me :), or the text editor author? (some people even write those themselves - I have not yet) - VICE has been also pretty instrumental in making demo productions.

I'm of course exaggerating. I guess most of the authors just accept that they make the tools and people just accept that the tools are used and not credited. IDK. IDK also why I even try to quantize this. Somehow all this just reminds me of the "Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance" which is a book of >400 words about the philosophy of "Quality".

Maybe in the end people just feel it's unfair that people are having different ways of working. Should I write my own Depth of Field shader, or do I accept that someone just uses the one written by Tim Sweeney?
2024-12-16 19:42
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337
We are all standing on the shoulders of Giants
2024-12-16 20:04
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337
btw. Should i make workstage generator to go with my converter to have complete package?
2024-12-16 20:22
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
@mankeli:
All those credits you mentioned; assembler, text editor, plus there’s gotta be an OS underneath, all those things rely on FONTS to convey information. You also need to credit the typographer. ;-)
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