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2016-02-09 06:03
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1078
Assembler preferences.

Two questions:
- what's everyone using these days?
- on large productions, do groups tend to enforce a single assembler for the entire project, or is the code base a bit heterogenous?

I'd like to keep this discussion purely focussed on assemblers; please leave code generators, loader toolchains etc for that other thread.


(as for me, I'm still using xa65 for most projects)
 
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2019-09-19 11:04
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1078
Might be able to hack something out of .STRAT?
(cf https://www.cc65.org/doc/ca65-10.html#ss10.16 )
2019-09-19 12:14
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 330
Is there any compiler which can count cycles when producing a code listing? This would be a nice feature. Also so that the start/end of counting could be set from within the asm code, and macros. I've got a tool for that, but it could be a feature in a compiler.
2019-09-19 13:01
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1719
Quote: Might be able to hack something out of .STRAT?
(cf https://www.cc65.org/doc/ca65-10.html#ss10.16 )


Ca65 is quite easy to extend.. ;) and open source
2019-09-19 13:42
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1078
Quote: Ca65 is quite easy to extend.. ;) and open source

Get behind me, Satan!
2019-09-19 14:42
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 1522
Quote:
.define sectors_in_track(tk) (21-tk/18*2-tk/25-tk/31)


So i went with this one now: =)
.define SECTORS_ON_TRACK(T) (21 - ((.min(T, 18) / 18) * 2) - (T / 25) - (T / 31))
2019-09-20 06:23
Endurion

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 60
@Mixer:
C64Studio shows the cycle count in the left lane of the editor window.
2019-09-23 15:44
Zirias

Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 47
Quoting ChristopherJam
I've switched over to ca65 for all but the tiniest of projects - mostly for the linker and the multiple segment support.
That's exactly the reason I always used ca65. I wouldn't want to do something a bit complex without a linker allowing me to configure the segments and memory layout and the code and corresponding data logically organized in different "compilation units".

If I need something ca65 can't do with macros, I write little C tools generating the code for it.
2019-09-24 07:56
oziphantom

Registered: Oct 2014
Posts: 409
because 64tass has an internal linker and that lets you perform sheer voodoo :D oh and 1 pass is soo 1984
2019-09-24 09:32
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 751
Three and a half years of pondering which assembler to use should be enough procrastination alibi, in that time you could have coded dozens of trackmos in SMON. So finally get coding you damn lazy bastards ;)
2019-09-26 11:15
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1078
Quote: Three and a half years of pondering which assembler to use should be enough procrastination alibi, in that time you could have coded dozens of trackmos in SMON. So finally get coding you damn lazy bastards ;)

But, but, I've just realised I need a smart memory allocator to put my 32 byte tables into pages that satisfy (page+1)&0x1f==0x1f so I can safely use SHX abs,y and SHY abs,x with five bit actor indices D':
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