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2006-04-04 00:06
SIDWAVE
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Timing rasters with sprites over

I am gone stuck in trying to get some rasters be stable under some sprites.

There are 8 sprites, not moving.

Here's what I have:

color .byte 0,6,14,1,14,6,0,14
timer .byte 4,3,5,5,10,4,5,1

ldy #4
_swap dey
bne _swap

ldx #0
_doit lda color,x
sta d020
sta d021
ldy timer,x
_wrap dey
bne _wrap
inx
cpx #8
bne _doit

I've never learned about the badlines, is it
something with that, if i wanna time these rasters ?

Thanks
 
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2006-04-10 23:14
SIDWAVE
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Ok, with the help of a nice guy, I got stable rasters under sprites.

But there is a problem.

I get some garbage gfx, it looks like D020 color appearing in D021 area, or $3fff issues.

I cleared $3fff, but it had no effect..
The color of this garbage gfx is set nowhere by me.

?
2006-04-11 06:55
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 716
If you didn't put the garbage gfx, it wouldn't be there >:). Sounds like perhaps you're doing..

lda color
sta $d020
sta $d021

..a bit too late in your "loop". It's not possible to get a 100% bugfree raster with random sprites on top. You will always see some bugs in the outermost borders. However, the d021-area does not need to get buggy. Just check the demos from 1988-89.. full of stuff like that :).
2006-04-11 10:51
SIDWAVE
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The buggy gfx changes when i change the timing.
It has color lightgreen, and my rasters are blue (0,6,14,1,14,6,0). The sprites are red/white.

It looks a lot like that D020/3fff trick you can do in the border to make 9 sprites.
2006-04-11 12:04
MRT
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Are you blocking badlines by altering $d011?
Because it sounds to me like you're filling the first 3 bits of $d011 with the first 3 bits of $d012. And thereby triggering a badline, showing the FLI bug on your screen...
2006-04-11 15:05
SIDWAVE
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I do:

lda $d012
and #%00000111
ora #%00011000
sta $d011
lda rastercolors,x
sta $d020
sta $d021
nop
...
2006-04-11 15:19
MRT
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Well, there's your problem.
You're generating a bad-line when you set your raster colors.

Try this:
(this code takes 2 cc more!)
  lda $d012
  sbc #$03       ;no need for sec
  and #%00000111
  ora #%00011000
  sta $d011


If you can't handle the 2 extra clockcycles then try the following timing trick:
(using example values below)

on rasterline 40, do:
  lda $d012

then go to next rasterline in the following two lines of code
  and #%00000111
  ora #%00011000

on rasterline 41, do:
  sta $d012


2006-04-11 16:12
MRT
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Or even easier...

Try this:
  lda $d012
  and #%00000111
  eor #%00011100
  sta $d011


This takes exactly the same amount of cycles as your own routine, but makes sure that the first 3 bits of $d012 and $d011 aren't the same! (and therefore don't create a badline)
2006-04-12 07:48
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
or try a $d011 table, filled with goody goodlines.

lda nobad,x
sta $d011
lda color,x
sta $d020
sta $d021

2006-04-12 12:17
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
or drink a cofee with intensity.
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