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2008-11-24 18:42
Majikeyric

Registered: Sep 2002
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65816 C compiler ?

I was just wondering if an efficient 65816 C compiler was available somewhere. The only one I found is not freeware and comes from Western Design Center. The ProSDK suite (including C Compiler w/ Optimizer, Assembler, Linker, Debugger, Libraries) from WDC is sold $395 (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/tools.cfm). Maybe a cracked version somewhere ? ;-D

Did someone ever use it ?

Do you know an alternative ? (running under WinXP)
 
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2008-11-24 21:04
Groepaz
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the wings patches are on sourceforge...

however, its quite bad =P
2008-11-25 06:54
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 395
Uhm.. http://www.cc65.org - supports 65SC816, iirc.
2008-11-25 07:08
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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Interesting stuff... pity I know shit about those machines :)
2008-11-25 07:27
Groepaz
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devia: no, the assembler does, but the c-compiler doesnt
2008-11-25 12:40
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
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Quote: devia: no, the assembler does, but the c-compiler doesnt

ahh.. i c.. or rather i don't ;-)

..upon closer inspection it appears the 65816 support is only listed as an asm option.. my bad.
I guess nobody feels like updating the C compiler :)
2008-11-26 01:52
SIDWAVE
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Quote: I was just wondering if an efficient 65816 C compiler was available somewhere. The only one I found is not freeware and comes from Western Design Center. The ProSDK suite (including C Compiler w/ Optimizer, Assembler, Linker, Debugger, Libraries) from WDC is sold $395 (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/tools.cfm). Maybe a cracked version somewhere ? ;-D

Did someone ever use it ?

Do you know an alternative ? (running under WinXP)


WTF has this to do with C64 ?
2008-11-26 05:33
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 463
There are a few pieces of hardware for the C64 that use 65816
2008-11-26 07:45
Majikeyric

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 76
I thought that LCC was Wings programming oriented... I might give it a try (but if Groepaz says it isn't really worth...;-D). I have read a bit the documentation of some tools from the ProDSK suite of WDC. The C compiler and the other tools: assembler, simulator, optimizer... "seem" really powerful (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/documentation/816cc.pdf). Erm, I was thinking about maybe purchasing the complete suite...
Why am I interested in a C compiler ? because I have never been more productive in coding than when I was coding years ago on PC, mixing C (for logic) and assembly (for gfx stuffs). Mixing C & asm on a "basic" C64 isn't really envisageable but on the SuperCPU platform I think it might give good results. Though I wonder if the execution environment built by a C compiler is not too heavy to achieve quality stuffs even at 20Mhz...
I have been working on a SuperCPU game engine for 4-5 years now and development goes too slowly. I have good ideas for it and if only the needed routines were in pure asm it would really speed up the things...
The Slang language (http://www.ffd2.com/fridge/slang/) by Steve Judd could be a good alternative to let's say : C, but it only produces 6502 code...
2008-11-26 12:08
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 952
Slang does produce 65816 code, although it only uses a small part of its power. The main code will have to be in the lower 64k, but you can keep data structures in SuperRAM through the user of @-arrays:

ubyte level(64,64)@$040000

would declare a 64x64 array in bank 4.

Also, both Slang and cc65 let you mix high level code with 65816 assembler routines. It's easy enough to make a library of 65816 routines that are accessible from C.
2019-03-28 17:39
Frank Buss

Registered: May 2014
Posts: 2
Quote: I was just wondering if an efficient 65816 C compiler was available somewhere. The only one I found is not freeware and comes from Western Design Center. The ProSDK suite (including C Compiler w/ Optimizer, Assembler, Linker, Debugger, Libraries) from WDC is sold $395 (http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/tools.cfm). Maybe a cracked version somewhere ? ;-D

Did someone ever use it ?

Do you know an alternative ? (running under WinXP)


Looks like it is free now. I guess they wouldn't sell much of it anyway, because for many other CPUs a C compiler is free as well.
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