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2023-12-31 12:50
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 509
Group id #12640 : Quantum

Quote:
Submitted by Didi [PM] on 4 November 2023
Not easy to find a cool unused name these days.

Sorry, what? Not easy to find a name?? Did we run out of words in English language already? Come on.

Why are we not treating this as we always did in the scene? Calling it lame and forcing this group to find a new name? Oxygen64 had to do it, why these guys do not? Someone please explain to me this double standard.
2023-12-31 13:28
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2940
<Laxity_the_scener> About that license money...
<Laxity_the_group>  What?
2023-12-31 14:03
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3174
<Laxity/Kefrens> hi

Yep, the scene(s) are full of names and handles reused several times
2023-12-31 14:56
DeMOSic

Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126
Proxima the old PC Group
Proxima the Multiplatform Group
2023-12-31 14:59
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4700
G*P had a PC group called Genesis Project to hunt down (Snacky tried) in 93, and also an Amiga group that stole the name. In 95 also Ewen Gillies tried to steal the C64 name.

Quoting Snacky: "Well and now i am searching for the Guys who claim to be Genesis Members.... They release shit stuff and use one of the lamest Intro i ever seen ! If somebody know someone or something about this Stuff.. Please contact a REAL Genesis Members on your favourite board to find these lamers and kick their ASS ! We wanna clear this topic..." :D
2023-12-31 15:05
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4700
I also wonder who was first using the Fairlight name in -87. Fairlight or ze German The Fairlight Cracking Crew. :D:D:D
2023-12-31 15:05
DeMOSic

Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126
Quote: G*P had a PC group called Genesis Project to hunt down (Snacky tried) in 93, and also an Amiga group that stole the name. In 95 also Ewen Gillies tried to steal the C64 name.

Quoting Snacky: "Well and now i am searching for the Guys who claim to be Genesis Members.... They release shit stuff and use one of the lamest Intro i ever seen ! If somebody know someone or something about this Stuff.. Please contact a REAL Genesis Members on your favourite board to find these lamers and kick their ASS ! We wanna clear this topic..." :D


and oh yeah

G*P the demogroup
GP the swedish news site
:D
2023-12-31 15:06
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4700
Quote: and oh yeah

G*P the demogroup
GP the swedish news site
:D


GP (Göteborgs Posten) are just posers! :D Propaganda all the way, man!
2023-12-31 15:08
DeMOSic

Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126
Quote: GP (Göteborgs Posten) are just posers! :D Propaganda all the way, man!

yeah! propaganda is 10x better then anything Göteborgs Posten has done! :D
2023-12-31 15:08
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253
Genesis are a progressive rockband from Surrey, and they obviously refer to The Book of Genesis.
2023-12-31 15:08
DeMOSic

Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126
and anything ever using the word Yes is copying the Prog Rock band Yes

my group MoonShine
some PC Demogroup named Moonshine https://demozoo.org/groups/65608/
2023-12-31 17:04
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 509
Thanks for all the (well known to myself) examples from other scenes (you know there was an Amiga demogroup Arise, right?), but this case and the mentioned case of Oxygen64 is about the same name within the same scene…

By the way, I think it was Macx back in the 90s claiming in one personal note to me that there was a group called Arise already and we should change our name :)
2023-12-31 20:08
Larry

Registered: Feb 2007
Posts: 26
Rebels didn't rename back then. And that was the same scene, same case.
2024-01-01 09:03
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253
Quote: Thanks for all the (well known to myself) examples from other scenes (you know there was an Amiga demogroup Arise, right?), but this case and the mentioned case of Oxygen64 is about the same name within the same scene…

By the way, I think it was Macx back in the 90s claiming in one personal note to me that there was a group called Arise already and we should change our name :)


I have no recall of that, but could be true anyhow. I don't know of any other group named Arise though, and I have been a huge fan since the first Biba.

My earlier comment was just to blow off some steam.
2024-01-01 11:09
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 509
Quoting macx
I have no recall of that, but could be true anyhow. I don't know of any other group named Arise though, and I have been a huge fan since the first Biba.

Just for fun I will try to find it. I kept most of the notes from that period ;) There is slight chance that I misremember something though.
2024-01-01 23:25
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 625
There’s Excess, too… the original Excess (from the U.K.) had a very good reputation for fast and high quality cracking, as well as some of my earliest demos… and, yet, years later along came a German Excess (“New Excess”) who hoodwinked the name for themselves, thinking that they could fool people into thinking they’re us…

It’s too late now, the Excess name has been dragged through the mud… so we decided to just let them have at it…
2024-01-02 00:07
El Jefe

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69
The "New Excess" seems to live forever rent free in your head Raistlin! Relax! I guess its just a bit of rivalry, a little bit of scene fun ;-)

Shocker/sidDivers
2024-01-02 00:46
El Jefe

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69
Quote: G*P had a PC group called Genesis Project to hunt down (Snacky tried) in 93, and also an Amiga group that stole the name. In 95 also Ewen Gillies tried to steal the C64 name.

Quoting Snacky: "Well and now i am searching for the Guys who claim to be Genesis Members.... They release shit stuff and use one of the lamest Intro i ever seen ! If somebody know someone or something about this Stuff.. Please contact a REAL Genesis Members on your favourite board to find these lamers and kick their ASS ! We wanna clear this topic..." :D


Wonder who would actually want to steal a name from a group that actually stole their groupname from a Star Trek movie?? ;-)

Shocker/sidDivers
2024-01-02 01:19
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 485
https://www.rehab.com/genesis-project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1uc
:-P


*scnr*
2024-01-02 09:19
Slaxx

Registered: Jul 2019
Posts: 1
Just for fun...
Do U know the HSM Triad?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Triad_(N53)
2024-01-02 10:30
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2912
or

2024-01-02 12:05
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 509
or
2024-01-02 17:42
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3174
The Solution
2024-01-02 18:16
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4700
Quote: https://www.rehab.com/genesis-project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1uc
:-P


*scnr*


Probably younger than G*P ;)
2024-01-02 18:23
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243

which group? :)
2024-01-02 18:26
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243


1984
2024-01-02 18:45
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 515
have your cat walk on the keyboard to choose an original name for your new group: ERDVZGHIOOK7L
0 results in google - voila' :)
2024-01-02 19:23
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 668
That Huxley album is from 1984, so I'm sure it is older. C64 wasn't even 2 yet.
2024-01-02 19:37
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1069
Quoting Smasher
have your cat walk on the keyboard to choose an original name for your new group: ERDVZGHIOOK7L
0 results in google - voila' :)
don't forget to change your password ;)
2024-01-02 19:40
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 107
Quote: have your cat walk on the keyboard to choose an original name for your new group: ERDVZGHIOOK7L
0 results in google - voila' :)


I'd prefer "Oihaödw" myself
2024-01-03 10:33
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 179
Quote: have your cat walk on the keyboard to choose an original name for your new group: ERDVZGHIOOK7L
0 results in google - voila' :)


This is (probably) how the chinese come up with temporary brands for their trash products that flood Amazon etc. Come up with a unique brand name, set up 1000 fake rave reviews, sell a few until real reviews start trashing the rating, pull the product down, publish the product with another unique, imaginary brand name, rinse and repeat. There's no biz like ecomm biz :D

(sorry for going slightly off-topic. Here's a random, completely unrelated picture from the internet for distraction)

https://offimart.com/1917-large_default/artline-fineliner-pen-1..
2024-01-03 11:35
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4700
Quote:

1984


BUYING!

And "Peacemaker is the name of a series of fictional characters originally owned by Charlton Comics and later acquired by DC Comics. The original Peacemaker first appeared in Fightin' 5 #40 (November 1966)" - The earliest known use of the noun peacemaker is in the Middle English period (1150—1500). OED's earliest evidence for peacemaker is from before 1425, in 'Lanterne of Liȝt'.

But I think I win. "Hedning" is a Swedish word meaning "heathen" - introduced in old norse ("heþninge") around the viking age. :P

But noone will beat Almighty God, at least not if you are Christian.
2024-01-03 20:19
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2152


A rather rotten place on Mallorca, in Calla Millor
2024-01-03 20:29
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Wasn't there a cracking group named Quantum in the 80s?
2024-01-03 21:47
Larry

Registered: Feb 2007
Posts: 26
I guess Quantum is A Synthwave Mix :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6xE_yp5SrQ
2024-01-04 09:34
Higgie

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 116
i plead guilty for stealing the Kraze group name from Kraze of "The Party" fame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8sRHJayIqM :) ... Though I'm not sure if it was RokDaZone or me who came up with it first.
2024-01-04 10:42
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3174
I think many have misunderstood the point of this thread, it's about reusing names already used in the scene, not the outside world inspiration for them.
2024-01-04 12:04
Higgie

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 116
@iAN CooG: so i plead guilty for misunderstanding, too. ;)
2024-01-04 21:03
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 434
Quote: I think many have misunderstood the point of this thread, it's about reusing names already used in the scene, not the outside world inspiration for them.

Well no, this thread was about the german group Quantum ;-) And since it seems the hassle with polish Quantum rebuild are solved - I ask the moderators to close this thread; pretty please, with cream on top; ?out of scene drama error.

But since it's "discuss this group" - is it even possible or correct to close this thread? :-D
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