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Rough
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Handle id #17008 : Magnus Wahlberg
I wonder if this is really a scener, his tunes are co-credited in TDM's HVSC entries. Did he (co-)compose the tunes for the 64 or did TDM just covers? |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
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Nice question. From Dandare3 / Royalty Intro :
"music composed by magnus "yngwie" wahlberg and conducted by tdm. all rights reserved by the owner..."
Can be interpreted as "TDM covered an original tune by Magnus "yngwie" Wahlberg". Probably an Yngwie J Malmsteen fan? Dunno. from http://www.tubedigg.com/biography.php?name=the-itch
"There are a few bands named The Itch. One The Itch is a band from southern Sweden. It consists of lead singer (and former Tenebre guitarist) Lukas Landerö, Magnus Wahlberg on guitar, Johan Helgesson on the drums and Tobbe Skogh on bass."
Probably a metal guitarist.
Many c64 music authors have the habit of crediting the covered original artist - even when this original artist haven't touched a c64 in his life - which is pointless: the *SID TUNE* isn't made by the original artist or even co-authored with the c64 musician.
We in HVSC are infact currently clearing some double attributions in AUTHOR fields, STIL.txt is there to report the original covered tune & artists.
Another hint about Metal_Generation.sid being made by TDM only, is the text found in Utopia : "YNGWIE'S OPUS BY TDM OF TRIAD".
Would be nice to get some more info about Magnus "yngwie" Wahlberg. |
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Rough
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Thanks for the info.
Ice stills needs to be removed from JCH/Ending.sid btw |
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Zyron
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TDM notified about this thread. |
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iAN CooG
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Quote: Thanks for the info.
Ice stills needs to be removed from JCH/Ending.sid btw
already in the current script
# ICE here is only the original MOD author covered by JCH
/MUSICIANS/J/JCH/Ending.sid
Jens-Christian Huus
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Conrad
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Quote: already in the current script
# ICE here is only the original MOD author covered by JCH
/MUSICIANS/J/JCH/Ending.sid
Jens-Christian Huus
Do the same for my crappy old 1998-99 Future Composer remake of it... and other remakes if any. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
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Quote: Do the same for my crappy old 1998-99 Future Composer remake of it... and other remakes if any.
Checked: Your sids in your directory don't need any author field cleanup, STIL already corrected too. don't worry =) |
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TDM
Registered: Aug 2006
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Magnus 'Yngwie' Wahlberg is the author of the three themes which make out the Metal Generation. The ideas were loosely translated into a future composer song by me, some time during the late 80's. Actually Yngwie sat beside and played the guitar and we jammed over the themes. Later on during 1992, I made a new arrangement of the ideas and hotted up the sounds and beat. I also adde a modulation between part 2 and 3 (from A min -> A maj), instead of letting the third part run in major parallell C as Yngwie (Magnus) used to play it.
Making it short, I would say I covered his song. It's always hard to draw a line of ownership. The song was never produced outside the C64 (That I know of?)
As iAN CooG says, Yngwie is metal guitarist and current plays with The Itch, (Awesome dudes, btw).
Does this make it anymore clear? :)
Best regards
Hans Axelsson (TDM/triad) |
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Rough
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Thanks a lot for the information, Hans.
I have some more detailed question. I'd give C64 credits for Metal Generation 1990 to both of you, while the re-arrangement 1992 goes to you only. How is it the with 'Turkish Tune'? Did you both co-jam beside/at the 64 too? |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
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TDM: Yeah a bit more clear now thanks =)
The only problem is now if we should consider Wahlberg a C64 scener and keep it on the database, or not ;)
Also we need a confirmation, if /MUSICIANS/T/The_Dungeon_Master/Red_Storm_intro.sid ( from Red Storm )is actually yours, so we can remove the "<?>" from the author field. I think was marked as unsure because it's the only tune in the demo not credited.
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TDM
Registered: Aug 2006
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/MUSICIANS/T/The_Dungeon_Master/Red_Storm_intro.sid is mine. When it comes to Magnus, he wasn't a scener in that meaning of the word, he was more like a inspirational source and a musical friend. We just happened to have a C64 in the same room we jammed :) |
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Rough
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As it looks Magnus and Hans were jamming in their room, and Hans was putting notes of the tunes into his 64. So I'd say it's a valid co-composition, unlike JCH's 'Ending' which is just a straight cover from ICE's mod without ICE adding to the 64 work.
Like mentioned above I'd add him. |
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TDM
Registered: Aug 2006
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Rough, Same goes for Turkish Tune. We experimented a lot with scales and echoes. Bythe way, that song lay the ground for the three songs in "Classix" |
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Rough
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I would like to add that Turkish Tune is a very cool tune which I have literally listened to for hours. |
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TDM
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Rough, I'm actually thinking of making a new version of it with accordions and flutes. :) |
