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2017-03-29 18:51
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 2663
Release id #154887 : Giana Sisters DS

I hate to bring this matter back again every time, but this tune is not to be credited to Fabian del Priore as the sid tune is made by LMan only, by his own admission, it's only a cover (of a cover).
It's not that we credit Harold Faltermeyer as the co author of every axel f cover, for example.
 
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2017-03-30 06:41
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 63
Because it is a direct port, not a cover. The musical content, sound design, arrangement is 100% Fabian's, except the ending (the original loops).

Hülsbeck is credited on the screen for his original in small letters only, because Fabian's version is drastically different.

This whole discussion is unnerving really.
2017-03-30 06:42
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 63
He was also beta listening all the time and suggesting things, if you absolutely need any direct involvement.
2017-03-30 06:46
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 63
Really it's like the discussion back then when I released new .prgs of my songs with the only difference being that I had replaced the boring psid screen with a picture. You guys insisted that it needed a new release instead of just having it as replacement or additional download in the original release. You've made your points, you've had your way but to what result? CSDb has become a bit more messy and nobody really gives a damn.

What I'm trying to say is, rules and standards are of utmost importance, but leave a *little* room for common sense.
2017-03-30 09:56
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 2663
I am using common sense, but seems not that common to everyone.
Having Fabian listening, nodding, waving flags and screaming "GO!GO!GO!" while _you_ were porting it to the C64 is not direct and active involvement and doesn't make him the co-author of the _C64 VERSION_ of the same tune, even if it were 100% identical to the mp3 (or whatever format was in the NDS game) :D
2017-03-30 10:09
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 1964
He could be credited for "help" though.
2017-03-30 10:38
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 63
Whatever guys. If you think he's not worth the credit even though he is responsible for 99% of the musical content, go ahead.

It does leave another arbitrary aftertaste about how things are handled here, though. Jeez it's just a credit.
2017-03-30 10:48
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 63
And I've noticed you've also re-removed his scener entry. He *is* an active scener, even if his c64 days are past.

This is almost as bad as Wikipedia with their "not relevant enough" agendas. We were quarreling with the admins there like 10 years ago, because they thought parts of our scene and subculture were not relevant enough to be listed on Wikipedia. Of course they won, having more pull. The pages were removed.
2017-03-30 10:58
Karmic

Registered: Apr 2015
Posts: 44
Come on. Rapture has tunes already in HVSC, at least leave the scener entry undeleted.
2017-03-30 11:13
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 2741
Yes there is some stuff in HVSC, what now?

csdb

http://csdb.dk/search/?seinsel=all&search=priore&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

search on hvsc

http://www.hvsc.c64.org/dosearch.htm?searchQuery=priore
2017-03-30 11:24
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 227
You can also search on the hvsc site:

http://hvsc.de/?q=priore

I've requested to have his csdb entry undeleted. He is a C64 scener.
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