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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631 |
Release id #212349 : VICE 3.6
Since there are some questions in the comments section of VICE 3.6, I figured it would be better use the forum for any questions.
So to start things off:
Quoting The Human Code MachineBut how can I save the monitor window position on GTK3 Vice Windows x64? After exiting it always opens the same small window.
Currently you can't, window resizing/repositioning support is different across OSes/WMs, so making this work properly for all configurations may never work. That said, I'm working on a "fix" to make it at least work on some systems. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116 |
It should be much better than any 2.4 ever was actually :) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
@gpz: when ppl say this they obviously refer to the user experience, including the interface. Not the accuracy of the emulation itself. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 559 |
Frantic, I think most people’s problem with versions above 2.4 were that the SID emulation wasn’t quite right and that the framerate just wasn’t smooth.. so while emulation was more accurate, technically, the loss of smooth 50Hz playback spoilt all of that effort.
For me, working on demos, I would always run on latest VICE regardless… if I heard an audio “pop” or “hiss”, or an effect didn’t look smooth (tiny circle scrollers look awful when not run at a smooth framerate, for example), I would check on other emulators - HOXS, Denise etc.
Everything I’m hearing about 3.6 is good … so perhaps I won’t need to revert to other emulators in future.
(I do also test on final hardware of course - but I develop using VICE) |
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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631 |
Quoting The Human Code MachineThx a lot Compyx for this nice Christmas gift! Tested on Windows 11 and seems to be working as it should. It was the one feature I missed from the old native Windows Vice.
You're welcome! Good to know it works on Windows 11. It also works on my Windows 7 VM, so there's a decent chance it works on other Windows version as well. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4596 |
Quote: Frantic, I think most people’s problem with versions above 2.4 were that the SID emulation wasn’t quite right and that the framerate just wasn’t smooth.. so while emulation was more accurate, technically, the loss of smooth 50Hz playback spoilt all of that effort.
For me, working on demos, I would always run on latest VICE regardless… if I heard an audio “pop” or “hiss”, or an effect didn’t look smooth (tiny circle scrollers look awful when not run at a smooth framerate, for example), I would check on other emulators - HOXS, Denise etc.
Everything I’m hearing about 3.6 is good … so perhaps I won’t need to revert to other emulators in future.
(I do also test on final hardware of course - but I develop using VICE)
Yes. Exactly. User experience. I want the emulator to work as a C64 would. I don't care much for the start cable exoplanetary matrix half pixel cycle exact cartridge code monitors, or wide border magma chamber mumbo jumbo code monkey settings. I just want a smooth and great C64 experience when emulating. And I haven't had that since Vice 2.4. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116 |
except 2.4 never had as stable framerate or as low audio/video latency as 3.6 has? :) (and i dont buy the "user experience" thing myself. i find the menu structure on 2.4 truely horrible straight from hell, i'd ditch it for the central config dialog alone.) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4596 |
Quote: except 2.4 never had as stable framerate or as low audio/video latency as 3.6 has? :) (and i dont buy the "user experience" thing myself. i find the menu structure on 2.4 truely horrible straight from hell, i'd ditch it for the central config dialog alone.)
I just meant that the feel of Vice emulation on Windows got worse after 2.4 (sid not keeping up, farts started, jerkiness, extremely slow and so on) and now it seems fixed. Great! Menus in 3.1 was nice. Haven't gotten used to these new ones yet, but seems logical and nice. :) |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989 |
This might be a stupid question, but how do you pass cmd line parameters to VICE these days on MacOS?
/Applications/vice-x86-64-gtk3-3.6.0/x128.app/Contents/MacOS/x128 --help does exactly nada, netither does open -a /Applications/vice-x86-64-gtk3-3.6.0/x128.app --args -help |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2844 |
There's a "bin" folder next to the app folders, i believe, containing the CLI incarnations of the programs.
Worked for me, although something was always quite off with the working directory. |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
Quote: This might be a stupid question, but how do you pass cmd line parameters to VICE these days on MacOS?
/Applications/vice-x86-64-gtk3-3.6.0/x128.app/Contents/MacOS/x128 --help does exactly nada, netither does open -a /Applications/vice-x86-64-gtk3-3.6.0/x128.app --args -help
@Jackasser: Yes, what Krill says. This changed in one of the more recent versions. I had the same problem at first. |
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