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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501 |
Release id #218343 : E2IRA
The highest level of admiration is imitation ;)
Joker guys made our day at Xenium with this one!
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378 |
Cheers for the insight into the vector split internals, @wacek - that part was definitely a highlight for me.
There's still so much potential for doing interesting things with vector quantized data well beyond simple video playback.
Agreed with $various about how there's not much point doing a realtime effect then only showing as much as could have been easily preanimated. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116 |
Quote:Are there good examples where a given real-time effect could have just as well been an animation?
Eg lot of tunnels. Then again, those _are_ often static animation with color cycling :=) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2844 |
Quoting GroepazQuote:Are there good examples where a given real-time effect could have just as well been an animation?
Eg lot of tunnels. Then again, those _are_ often static animation with color cycling :=) I don't think that move-table effects can be lumped together with straight animation. =) |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501 |
Quoting ChristopherJamThere's still so much potential
...and that should be primary focus of everyone, not that asinine and pointless discussion. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Quoting ChristopherJamAgreed with $various about how there's not much point doing a realtime effect then only showing as much as could have been easily preanimated. Faster loading time, space for more on disk could be some points. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116 |
Quote:I don't think that move-table effects can be lumped together with straight animation. =)
The line is blurred though. Also tunnel CAN be done as straight animation, good enough to fool AEG to come to me and ask if it is =) (Reanim8ed side2, a little over 100 frames) |
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Boogaloo
Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 21 |
My 2c: I am oldskool. Demos for me has been about showing c0der skillz, as in "Look! I managed to squeeze X sprites in a DYSP over a bitmap Y pixels high:", or "I made the impossible! I can scroll a bitmap *this* fast.". Realtime stuff. Like in the old days, when discovering new VIC tricks was still a thing.
Nowadays, the focus has shifted towards creating a visual experience rather than showing off crazy c0der skillz. The visual end result is more important than how it is achieved.
I'm not saying that it is necessarily a bad thing. It's just the way it is. And, for example, pulling off a nice animation that wouldn't normally fit in memory by implementing a crazy compression algorithm is still codepr0n in my book.
Still, I am usually more impressed when an effect is real time and not "just" precalculated. The goal, IMHO, is still to show off what can be done with the limited resources on the C64. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378 |
Quoting CruzerFaster loading time, space for more on disk could be some points.
Ok yes, there is that. Also, fitting into a onefiler along with a heap of other stuff or while staying within size restrictions.
Quoting BoogalooAnd, for example, pulling off a nice animation that wouldn't normally fit in memory by implementing a crazy compression algorithm is still codepr0n in my book.
Effluvium and Jam Ball 2 both say thanks :D
Quote:Still, I am usually more impressed when an effect is real time and not "just" precalculated. The goal, IMHO, is still to show off what can be done with the limited resources on the C64.
Agreed. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501 |
Quoting ChristopherJam
Quoting CruzerAlso, fitting into a onefiler along with a heap of other stuff or while staying within size restrictions.
You can squeeze a lot of animations into one file ;) see my „Inside” demo series ;) |
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Carrion
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317 |
CONGRATULATIONS To Whole ARISE Group And All Involved!
Fully deserved Meteoricks 2023 Winner Award for the best OLDSchool demo of 2022! |
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