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SIDWAVE
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Release id #94766 : Defender +6Gfx
Why did you remove my credit for the intromusic ?
Does this mean, that no cracks at all have credits for intro tune ?
Weird, if you ask me.. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2896 |
Quoting daison@Moloch: "We've done it this way for years here". Besides "It is so, for it is written in the Bible" that's one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard.
@Ignorance: Lol, didn't know you were so sensitive about what abbreviations should be used around these parts of the web. Golden Axe me, because I find crack intro is too much too type =P
The rules are the rules, you can't get around them by stating your opinion.
Also, cracktro isn't a c64 term ... true sceners (non-lamers/non-n00bs) know this and don't use that PC/Amiga term with the c64. The correct term is intro, only in recent years did demo people try to change it to "crack intro". It is, and will always be, simple intro.
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daison
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 90 |
while(rules==rules)
rules=rules;
//have fun remaining in your endless scene-loop
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Rough
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I Just want to point out that the different terms 'crack intro' and 'intro' is only used in the database to distinguish between intros linked before cracks and standalone intros which were mostly released to the public around 89/90. e.g. Orion Intro |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2896 |
Quoting daison//have fun remaining in your endless scene-loop
There is no endless loop for me, this is a hobby and nothing more. Dealing with idiots, unfortunately, is part of said hobby.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136 |
Quote:Dealing with idiots, unfortunately, is part of said hobby.
admit it, thats why you doing it ! |
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SIDWAVE
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Well, the system is flawed i think.
It results in x number of tunes/whatever, not showing up on a profiles release list.
It could be that I have released 12 tunes in various intros, but none of them are linked to me, and you cannot see that i did them, so this means that released stuff goes into the thin air.
So if CSDB was meant to record everything about who did what and when, then this strange rule is preventing that.
A simple example: Cooperation Demo tune by Future Freak, is likely in 100+ intros. So my statement is, that you should see those 100+ cracks on Future Freaks profile.
Else i dont see the point of CSDB anyway... |
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206 |
I agree with Jan, because I think that the intro is a part of crack and credits should be listed. I can understand if in the past there were 500 cracks using the same intro with same music but nowadays nobody is doing like this. People are doing exclusive tunes for intros etc.
Personally I don't count ripped intro as separate C64 release. Intro is a part of crack :) |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833 |
Regarding music in intros... I would prefer to see a single entry of the intro on its own, with full credits including the music... but then have HVSC links to all the SIDs that were used in the same intro, as well as links to all the cracks that use the intro (this is already available).
I disagree with adding music credits to cracked releases directly, because:
1.) It will take ages to add music credits to every single crack on this site. (We're talking about roughly 25 years of stuff here, some of which that are locked as well, and that will put more pain up your arse.)
2.) It will overload the musician's profile with hundreds of releases that are less likely to be viewed by people who are not interested in the cracking scene, as well as focusing out the more important music releases in demos or music compos.
3.) They would still be unreachable if you are in "demo" mode on CSDb ;), and I know a lot are in that mode for past reasons. Besides that, "C64 Intros" can be still viewed in "demo" mode.
Having said that, it will help boost your profile with more credits. Though I'd rather see CSDB optimised with these sort of credits. Having lots of credits doesn't mean you'll get lots of hits, if that is what you're really after. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136 |
Quote:Regarding music in intros... I would prefer to see a single entry of the intro on its own, with full credits including the music... but then have HVSC links to all the SIDs that were used in the same intro, as well as links to all the cracks that use the intro (this is already available).
and thats exactly how its supposed to be, indeed.
and the rest aswell, you got it =)
(except "intro" != "crack intro" =)) |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Quoting rambonest could be that I have released 12 tunes in various intros, but none of them are linked to me, and you cannot see that i did them, so this means that released stuff goes into the thin air.
So if CSDB was meant to record everything about who did what and when, then this strange rule is preventing that.
A simple example: Cooperation Demo tune by Future Freak, is likely in 100+ intros. So my statement is, that you should see those 100+ cracks on Future Freaks profile.
That's not caused by the CSDb system, but because people tend not to add entries for intros linked to cracks they open up aentries for. |
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