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2010-10-18 13:55

SIDWAVE
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Release id #94766 : Defender +6Gfx

Why did you remove my credit for the intromusic ?
Does this mean, that no cracks at all have credits for intro tune ?

Weird, if you ask me..

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2010-10-19 13:42

The Overkiller
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Registered: Mar 2002
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Quote: Regarding music in intros... I would prefer to see a single entry of the intro on its own, with full credits including the music... but then have HVSC links to all the SIDs that were used in the same intro, as well as links to all the cracks that use the intro (this is already available).

I disagree with adding music credits to cracked releases directly, because:

1.) It will take ages to add music credits to every single crack on this site. (We're talking about roughly 25 years of stuff here, some of which that are locked as well, and that will put more pain up your arse.)
2.) It will overload the musician's profile with hundreds of releases that are less likely to be viewed by people who are not interested in the cracking scene, as well as focusing out the more important music releases in demos or music compos.
3.) They would still be unreachable if you are in "demo" mode on CSDb ;), and I know a lot are in that mode for past reasons. Besides that, "C64 Intros" can be still viewed in "demo" mode.

Having said that, it will help boost your profile with more credits. Though I'd rather see CSDB optimised with these sort of credits. Having lots of credits doesn't mean you'll get lots of hits, if that is what you're really after.

I fully agree .....

2010-10-19 18:18

iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3136

What about intros used hundred times but with dozens of different songs, and sometimes a song used only in one? how can you tell which releases uses a particular song? In an intro entry you only see a list of authors and sids, it doesn't say which exactly uses tune x and which tune y... Not counting that no one cares, it seems by just looking at random intro entries, to link EVERY release using that intro. I spend all my evenings and weekends entering sid entries and fixing badly credited music authors - the option to enter sid paths is exceptionally good to find who's really the author and finding real release dates - but how many can tell they care to do the same?
I entered the sid link to this entry
Caveman Ugh-Lympics
because it seemed that NO OTHER RELEASE uses this song. Spank me but it's the only way I have to know where that song is from. The same intro is used by other releases but don't have that tune.
Besides, any solution it's not optimal anyway if even entry owners lock their stuff and don't complete the credits/sid lists themselves.

2010-10-19 20:20

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136

you have a point... however to handle this special case, the database structure must be changed so this kind of relation can be dealt with.

2010-10-21 17:57

Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2896

Yeah, that is an issue. I've done this a few times, changed a music in an intro for whatever reason. Obviously the CSDb system currently can't handle that, but certainly something that should be fixed in the "future".

("future" generally meaning YR2065 of something)

2010-10-21 18:15

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136

we are competing with masons c64heaven on this delay issue =)

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