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2014-03-03 15:07
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
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Software Synths

There are some music tools and programs made for stock c-64 which produce sound or music, but are not necessarily using sid chip the usual way.

Such as:
SAM,
radwar speech,
the ESS speech,
Galways drums,
AndyM00's pulsetrain stuff,
Soundemons new waveform-stuff,
THCM Mod players,
Some of the Vicious Sid I and II routines,
Mahoneys many achievements,
Algorithms VQ packed players,
Censors various pwm players,
Eebens Pollytracker,
Retroskoi

We can observe that several c-64 musicians and coders have experimented with software based synthesis or sampling/compression over the years.

Most of the listed are rather recent. There must be plenty more weird sound routines done during the last 30 years that are not yet listed.

If you know of some past oddness that should be on the list - published or unpublished, please, paste a link or desrcibe. Would be interesting topic for discussion and perhaps someone gets a new idea.
 
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2014-03-03 17:09
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
space taxi maybe - it plays samples using the filters in a strange way i havent seen anywhere else.
2014-03-03 17:34
Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
I guess this counts for other Silas Warner/Muse games too!?
2014-03-03 17:47
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 422
Quote: space taxi maybe - it plays samples using the filters in a strange way i havent seen anywhere else.

Space Taxi Seems to be toggling filter on/off for audio channel 1 while it has full square wave and PWM selected. Is it a PWM sample with filter on/off or some other mechanism? Anyway, since it is on oscillator+filter, it should work also with 8580?

Space Taxi is by Silas Warner, would be interesting to take a look at the other games.
2014-03-03 17:49
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
no idea :) A.C.E. is another one that plays samples in unconventional ways (didnt investigate further yet, my guess is that it uses the noise waveform somehow)
2014-03-03 17:55
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 702
Ice guys Ice Guys
Uses 2bit via waveforms
2014-03-03 19:11
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
Quote:
Anyway, since it is on oscillator+filter, it should work also with 8580?

that made me wonder as well - as it clearly doesnt work on 8580 at all :)
2014-03-03 19:59
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 105
Quote: no idea :) A.C.E. is another one that plays samples in unconventional ways (didnt investigate further yet, my guess is that it uses the noise waveform somehow)

Perhaps something like turning the testbit on/off?
2014-03-03 20:22
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 422
Customer:"I can't play samples on my C-64"
Support:"Have you tried turning the test bit on and off again?"
2014-03-04 00:12
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
:D
2014-03-05 20:05
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
"Customer: No I didn't test that."
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