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2020-06-05 15:41
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 193
SID Factory II

Laxity and I have decided to go BETA with SID Factory II to let all curious SID composers also have a go at this cross-platform SID editor.

We have a Facebook group that you are welcome to join. There's also a nifty user manual there. If you're not on Facebook, this thread should serve as another place where we can share questions, ideas, music, bugs, new builds, additional files, etc.

Please note that although SID Factory II is quite stable and more than capable of editing SID tunes at this point, it is still missing a few essential things such as e.g. sub tunes. We have a solid ToDo and will post new builds here as they become available.

The first official BETA build: SIDFactoryII_20200604.zip
 
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2020-08-12 00:01
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting JCH
Laxity plans to release the source code later (the use of ReSID requires us to do so) after cleaning up some things in it. We don’t have an ETA yet, though.
Ugh, reading that kind of nonsense* would normally set me off quite a bit. Reading this on a renowned C-64 forum, though, by renowned C-64 musicians using a renowned SID emulator... not sure. Jury out until end of summer, maybe.

* Interpreting this as not quite understanding the terms rather than utter negligence or even outright evilness, for now. But then "need to clean up first" is a lame excuse no matter what. Really.
2020-08-12 15:31
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Damn, why are you guys so hostile and pushing everytime GPL is even mentioned? That's really some Linux entitlement toxic shit. Maybe leave decision to the authors, will ya? ;)
2020-08-12 15:41
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11112
The authors already decided, and choose GPL. It's that simple. Nothing to do with "hostile" at all. If you don't like how GPL works, don't choose GPL. It's that simple.
2020-08-12 16:21
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444
Quoting Jammer
That's really some Linux entitlement toxic shit.

If you open source your code of course you're entitled to chose whatever license you want. And if someone uses that code I would consider it the "normal" behaviour to respect that license. Wether it's on Linux, Windows or Amiga OS ;-)

And: the VICE project and it's components have a long sad "tradition" of code being used in other projects (even commercial ones) with many completely ignoring their license. I can understand that VICE coders are kind of frustrated by that.
2020-08-12 16:31
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
I know that Groepaz always reminds of GPL compliance but he's usually quite formal so I get it. Krill's stance, on the other hand, was imho a hit below the belt in any discussion. Blame it on the heat, I guess? :D

BTW, gotta give a new version another go. Maybe my impressions will change.
2020-08-12 16:35
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11112
Well, he is right in the sense that "when it's cleaned up" usually means "never". It IS a bad excuse :)
2020-08-12 19:21
AMB

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks for pointing me out to the MacOS version of SF2. I will be trying it for the coming days. And of course, thanks for your work to anyone involved in this promising project.
2020-08-12 19:36
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Thanks. I hope it works for you. :)
2020-08-12 20:54
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting Groepaz
Well, he is right in the sense that "when it's cleaned up" usually means "never". It IS a bad excuse :)


Have some faith in humanity :D
2020-08-12 22:01
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting Jammer
Krill's stance, on the other hand, was imho a hit below the belt in any discussion. Blame it on the heat, I guess? :D
Why "below the belt"? Not aware that i insulted anyone personally, nor did i intend to. And why the stance itself, not the delivery?

Heat or not, my opinion remains unchanged. :)
Good reasons have been mentioned by others.
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