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2018-06-26 18:03
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8591
Trolley Follies

"The entry was deleted by a moderator on 2018-06-20 12:13:48+00 for reason: basic, not worthy"

until now, i always thought we are acting by the rule of "we dont judge quality" here. apparently that has changed now? please point me to the new rules that now define what is worthy and what is not. (and why this: http://www.blackcastlesoftware.com/games/trolleyFollies/ is not) thanks.
 
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2018-07-06 02:29
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8591
so whats the rule now? or do you need another week to make it up?

there is a weekend coming up with beer and delete button!
2018-07-12 13:20
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 241
Reading this makes me really sad somehow...

Wasn't CSDB meant to be an archive for the history of *all* scene activities connected to the C64? Who has the right to draw the line between scene-relevant and non-relevant?

Why not let every C64 release be admitted to the db? Even though I'm not a friend of the current voting system (I consequently avoid using it) I think that crappy stuff will get its deserved share by receiving a constant low level of votes.

Some kind of tagging system would simplify (read: structurize) things even more but I won't open that can of pandora here ;)


Just my 1/2 cent...
2018-07-12 15:26
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1960
Quote: Reading this makes me really sad somehow...

Wasn't CSDB meant to be an archive for the history of *all* scene activities connected to the C64? Who has the right to draw the line between scene-relevant and non-relevant?

Why not let every C64 release be admitted to the db? Even though I'm not a friend of the current voting system (I consequently avoid using it) I think that crappy stuff will get its deserved share by receiving a constant low level of votes.

Some kind of tagging system would simplify (read: structurize) things even more but I won't open that can of pandora here ;)


Just my 1/2 cent...


CSDb is indeed a SCENE database, not a EVERYTHING GOES database. WE mods are drawing a line to allow scene stuff and disallowing non scene stuff and people. Not everything is scene stuff. To allow everything we should remove SCENE from the name of the db and add a DUMPSTER in it. And yes, WE decide what to do. Not happy with it? Make a demo about it.
2018-07-12 15:50
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8591
"Not everything is scene stuff."
thats out of the question.

so, what IS scene stuff then?

PS: kinda sad that obviously some ppl, even moderators, dont know the existing rules even - see https://csdb.dk/help.php?section=rules - and its the moderators job to enforce those rules, not to arbitrary decide whatever they feel like. its not the moderators who decide, its the moderators who set up the rules. important difference.
2018-07-13 01:30
ZeSmasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 287
Quote:
so, what IS scene stuff then?

"Scene stuff" is stuff released/produced by a scener.
To be a scener you need to pass the Certified Professional Scener Exam with a score higher than 65%.
I finally made it last year after retrying 3-4 times. lotsa questions about bitch and bikes or sumthing like that. tough one! :)
2018-07-13 01:44
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8591
2018-07-13 23:35
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 500
wow all cout stuff gone, really 8o
including the most downloaded release ever! /o\
not really a big fan but find it rather extreme
2018-07-14 03:00
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8591
Quote:
I guess it's ok to keep it here, it's not a commercial game, it's not actually a game at all as there's only a title screen and a ?SYNTAX ERROR as soon as you press fire =)

>_<
2018-07-14 12:00
ZeSmasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 287
I think that 8bit BASIC coding in 2018 is really cool. that's pure retro dedication! Today for the C64 I'm using win32 IDEs to asm code, win32 compilers, win32 tools to paint, emulators, etc. So, those modern BASIC coders, despite the quality of the results, deserve more respect that me. I feel like those like Cout are l33t and I'm ze lamah here.
I hope the BASIC ban decision can be reversed. "not worth releases", while recracks, stuff done with intromakers, horrible stuff done by a casual c64 owner with zero scene links, etc is kept. it makes me *uhm* *uhm* *uhm* a lot.
2018-07-14 13:54
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1960
ok seems like you like your basic crap, here, everything undeleted, divarin and cout, basic entries, all restored.
Don't ask my opinion on this anymore. Seems like it doesn't have any weight so why bothering?
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