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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
downvoting
howdy sceners,
i dont know if this was discussed before, but i am worried about this topic for a while now.
downvoting seems to be a real pleasure for some beings. but it doesnt make sense at all and falsfied the statistics. i know, there`s no accounting about taste. but is there any reason, for e.g., voting that less for maniacs of noise? just have a closer look to their stats! 4 votes, yet, with only 1 and 2 given points are really a joke to me!! surely for others too. this applies also for alot of other pretty cool productions.
however, maybe this rubbish may be stopped by changing the vote rules!?
some things that crossed my mind...
voting less then 5 points shouldnt be possible with an hidden pseudonym. the "TOP" categories should be separated by the release of year. an all time favourite list for each category can co-exist for sure :-)
i personally think that it does not make sense comparing demos from 2008 with demos from 1998 oder 1988.
Voting less then 5 points should be stated with a comment. week-minded comments and/or votes should be deleted by the admins.
there are for sure many other things that could be changed for a fair ranking and voting system. maybe i am absolutely wrong or just getting old (or both).
however, just post your ideas and comments. i am really curious ...
peace and keep on rockin` |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
to get more votes is pretty easy! just make them all PUBLIC and those downvoting will get (down)votes for them/their stuff aswell :D democracy, ah well, nonsense :) |
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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
true... at least i wont take it to serious and dont care anymore... thanks for your comments and point of views...
but i still think it should be possible to make it more balanced. maybe the top 10 ranking should have one simple rule... they can be only reach the top when they get over 100 votes, so some imbecile downvotes haven't that big consequence for the rating. |
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Wildstar
Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 50 |
LOL, doesn't matter to me. I don't use the voting system to determine anything. I look at the demos and screenshots. I know a single screenshot doesn't tell everything about a demo but of course multiple screenshots showing different parts can give a idea of how it might look.
If it looks really crappy (to me - its subjective), then I might not look at the demo so much but certain stuff that A) catches my attention and B) Holds it - certainly gets a great chance of me viewing it.
Demos is an art and the key to art is to A) catch the attention of the audience and B) Hold their attention.
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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
howdy, this is still gnawing on my mind... ;-)
what today come up to my head is:
you shouldn´t take the average percentage, in meaning of
"CSDb users have given a weighte daverage vote" for building up the rankings. but... you should simply count the total of given user points.
even voting just a single point would add ONE point to the total. so the small-minded dudes cant downvote a shit for stupidity when they give only one single point. ok, you can still push the topics, but you cant fuck everything off...
i really would like to know how the rankings would look like with this method ;-)
wutdayazincabout?
laterzzz.... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
that sounds like a great idea - IF you could make every user vote for every production. in any other case that idea is completely stupid =) |
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der_ton
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 11 |
#33, #34: It's not completely stupid, because it gives the "popular" productions an advantage. It's the same as the average vote, but multiplied with the number of voters. It shouldn't replace the current rating system, but it could be an interesting table to look at, maybe in the fun stuff section. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
such a point system works in a compo, where most people vote for most entries. but here, where only a minority of the users actually vote, and then they vote for a small subset of all entries its completely pointless. the numbers would be even less meaningful than those of the current system. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
upvoting would become the rule, hehe. Seriously.
Also I already presented the obviously best idea once here somewhere :-)
Each person has a list of his 10 fav releases. (maybe 5 for each category or whatever).
The rank of a release is measured by the times its on someones list. More work for the server but foolproof as far as I can see.
I'd also be willing to sell this idea to CSDb *g*
But noooo, voting is a no-go here (partially for good reasons). |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Just get over it. |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Why dont you do this ?
Anonym vote != allowed anymore
Best solution.
Then we can see who the fuckheads are.
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