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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Alkaline mudslide in Ajka
I'm sitting here at work (hence no Facebook and no chatting stuff available), reading several online press about the disaster in Ajka, Hungary: dozens of wounded ppl because of the alkaline mud, and some dead ones too.
I can't hide my anxiety about Poison, Cargo, Leon and all the ppl of Singular and Chorus which live there in Ajka.
If anybody has success in collect infos about their health and their status in general, would be very appreciated. Thank you in advance, crossfingering. |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
I read that the wounds were alkaline caused burns, and, yes, alumina is actually an alkali. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
That's right, people were wounded by the toxic waste but up to my knowledge, only one death was reported till now (three are still missing), and it wasn't caused by the waste's toxic effect. Sure it hurts and burns when it meets the skin, but it could be washed off with plain water.
Hungary's most popular news portal has a banner headline where it is comparing the accident to Hiroshima. I mean, yes it's a terrible disaster, people were hurt, but come on. After the dam is fixed and the streets are cleaned up, everything will be back to relatively normal.
Edit: don't get me wrong, I really don't want to understate the catastrophe, just wanted to attest that there's no need for further panic, and perhaps it's a way to make myself sure that my old pals Leon and Cargo and their families are more than all right. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Why the fuck would you wanna keep a million cubic meters of sludge anyway, no matter how toxic it is? If it was so non-toxic when dilluted with water, couldn't they just have slowly discharged it in a river?
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quoting JailbirdHungary's most popular news portal has a banner headline where it is comparing the accident to Hiroshima. I mean, yes it's a terrible disaster, people were hurt, but come on.
Do they really compare this to Hiroshima? Jeez, I see your reasons then, that's sensationalism for sure. "Pecunia non olet" latins were used to say, money has no smell...
Quoting CruzerWhy the fuck would you wanna keep a million cubic meters of sludge anyway, no matter how toxic it is?
Heh, that's part of the chemical process, involving times of resting and deactivating too... |
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Edhellon
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 22 |
Quoting Jailbird:
Quote:Hungary's most popular news portal has a banner headline where it is comparing the accident to Hiroshima. I mean, yes it's a terrible disaster, people were hurt, but come on. After the dam is fixed and the streets are cleaned up, everything will be back to relatively normal.
index.hu is tabloid-style and sensationalist, no doubt, but even they're not comparing to Hiroshima: they're saying that walking around the village what you see feels like what you'd see in a movie about Hiroshima.
And no, after the dam is fixed it will be anything but normal: AFAICS the insurance of the company doesn't even cover 10% of the damages so who's going to pay to fix the houses? Most houses are completely wrecked in the villages. Plus they have to clean the stuff very quickly in order not to soil the land (which provides the living for a significant number of people there) for a long time.
I think there are 5 deaths reported so far and about 6-8 missing persons.
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
By "relatively normal", I meant the toxic waste's physical effect on human health, not the disaster's social impact.
Considering index.hu, that headline is deliberately taken out of context, spiced up by mentioning Hiroshima, serves the sole purpose of sensationalism and spreads fear. People don't tend to think rationally when it comes to exaggerated titles. It leads to panic. Just look around on Hungarian forums: people are talking about atomic radiation, deadly acid and what not. |
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leonofsgr
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 15 |
i'm ok...
it's horror... :_(
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quoting Leoni'm ok...
it's horror... :_(
I saw :( And nothing can fix it. Now you have a very sad horizon to be inspired for a new pic to draw.
Next Arok -> disastertro?
Have care of yourself when helping on the roads. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
@Jailbird: I do agree, media here is fuckin' retarded as well as the majority of people. Built on the problems of direct victims, I guess reporters are happy that there is someting real to chew on. In a month, all the people whose houses were damaged will sit alone forgotten and try to solve the situation by themselves.
I really would not like to see things fucked up outside like that as I open the door. Radioactive or not, toxic or not, there is some 40km2 (and growing) area affected with red alcali waste there that is everything but not normal. Apart from the red flood instant damage on houses and peoples lives, directly it probably won't damage the health, alright. But rain will stop, waste will dry and dust will fly so everyone will breathe it in in the following years in a huge area. In a decade, we will be able to tell if it really affected people and environment or not.
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This is very-very off and I'm not trying to make any connections with Chernobyl but the whole phenomenon made me wonder about the differences of media reflections here between 1986 and 2010. These present news are just about trying to create hysteria and mess while every tabloid pea-brained asshole hunts for THE BIG STORY and is eager to create some mess, without fuckin' thinking about consequences.
I can remember back in time media was more informal and neutral, they just said facts and after Chernobyl they told us not to worry, the catastrophe was far away and people there do everything humanly possible and die trying so save everyone else. I can remember many trees thrown off the leaves the following days and in the following years a lot of people became sick (no direct radiation but allergy, asmathic and rheumatic symptomes, cancer, severe lung problems etc) in an increasing number.
I'm sure the saw the trees. Media just tried to calm down people repeating that everything will be alright. The speakers were shocked and sad but also supportive like a nurse. The present speakers are nothing more but provocative and arrogant, creating fear if possible. To the hell with them all.
I'm not telling past times were better but people was. Much better, for sure. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Quote: i'm ok...
it's horror... :_(
Man I'm happy that you're alright!
Take care in the horror, bro'! |
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