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2010-08-02 23:16
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
CSDb: quantify me

CSDb-based quantitative analyses of the C64 Scene

http://www.xentax.com/?page_id=235
 
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2010-08-06 15:16
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
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technically yes, but legally, unwritten legally ? who owns the data?


depends on where you live =) but generally, who owns the database also owns the data. you cant legally take it and use it, except for a partial quote in scientific work (as with the analysis here).

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I have to admit the idea of making a "next gen" CSDb has occured to me, seeing as the current site looks and feels a bit dated. Though in my opinion it would be stupid (not to mention rude) to do this without at least asking the current maintainers whether they want to join in on such an effort.


there have been plans to do this for a while ... if you think you really can help (ie, spend a *significant* amount of time on it, for a year or two, until its all done) then by all means please contact perff :)

2010-08-06 16:56
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1920
Let move all of this to comp.binaries.cbm!
2010-08-06 20:43
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
Quote: Let move all of this to comp.binaries.cbm!


Hehe. Yeah, or bring back TTD. Anyway, thanks for the comment, now let's get back to the numbers. :)
2010-08-07 01:27
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
I enjoyed watching the documentary. It made clear many facts. The music has an 'archival' type of melody. Being coded in basic gives a charm to it.
2010-08-11 21:57
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
http://www.xentax.com/?page_id=254

I've continued the research. Still a lot to analyse, but I wanted to share the first of the on-going investigation.

2010-08-14 07:01
Ed

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173
Interesting read on a first glance.
2010-08-17 20:52
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
You know, the Scener page is not really much use, looking at it now. It just tells you * maybe * when he or she started being noticed by the first credit that was given in a certain year. All the rest has nothing robust to do with creating a new release, especially if it is a musician. Though many exclusive tunes were created for a demo, also many tunes were used in multiple releases. So musicians are usually credited way too much for the same piece, making it difficult to pinpoint the actual creation date of a musical piece, aside for maybe trying to logically link a Credit to HVSC info. God what a mess.
2010-08-17 21:12
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
Oh, just to let you in on a draft mindspook of mine, http://c64.xentax.com/downloads/csdb_quantifyme_part2_mindspook.. trying to make sense of what I analysed in a little alcoholic haze during my vacantion, and in a hurry, during night-time. ;) Hope to update my "official" page with an abstract of my ramblings soon.
2010-08-18 04:11
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
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So musicians are usually credited way too much for the same piece

its the same for gfx people btw. and coders. (not quite as bad, but still) =P
2010-08-18 06:49
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235
True, like I said, it is especially an issue with musicians, but yes graphicians (fonts, etc) get their stuff used in multiple releases too, and coders will have certain routines used elsewhere (like loaders etc) as well, if not always credited :)
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