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titan_ae
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 46 |
C64 Reloaded ? (in Hardware)
Someone else noticed that 1st April entry at c64.sk about a new C64 in actual Hardware made by individual computers ?
Thought about an April joke, but then i saw this :
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/C64_reloaded
Anyone up for this ? :) |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
Quoting Mr. SIDAccording to him it's not feasible to add that fix to an existing C64, as you would have to socket the RAM chips and also get some signals from the VIC. Nothing that would be an easily installable kit.
Sounds pretty feasible to me actually, but I can see why you wouldn't sell it as a kit. |
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Stone
Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172 |
What about HDMI output? Would that be prohibitively expensive? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
Quote:What about HDMI output? Would that be prohibitively expensive?
short answer: yes
long answer: there are two ways to do this. the obvious one is to add a circuit that converts s-video to hdmi. this is far from trivial, rather expensive, and the image quality will still not be perfect. also existing converter devices can likely do it better than anything we could add (at reasonable cost). the other one is to have a vic-ii replica that runs in parallel and outputs the picture, ie the chameleon approach - it wouldnt be cheap either, it would change the original circuit significantly, and most importantly chameleon already exists. |
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Grue
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 161 |
Now that would be great if chameleon had hdmi instead of vga. Its so damn annoying to find vga display that actually can do ~50hz without any hiccups, hdmi is much more flexible on that area.. |
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Jupp3
Registered: Feb 2013
Posts: 6 |
Quote: Quote:What about HDMI output? Would that be prohibitively expensive?
short answer: yes
long answer: there are two ways to do this. the obvious one is to add a circuit that converts s-video to hdmi. this is far from trivial, rather expensive, and the image quality will still not be perfect. also existing converter devices can likely do it better than anything we could add (at reasonable cost). the other one is to have a vic-ii replica that runs in parallel and outputs the picture, ie the chameleon approach - it wouldnt be cheap either, it would change the original circuit significantly, and most importantly chameleon already exists.
Quote:What about HDMI output? Would that be prohibitively expensive?
No. Not at all. You can buy cheap SVideo to HDMI converters from f.ex. DealExtreme for few dozen euros (I guess), no use putting something like that on a motherboard and pretend there would be "real" HDMI output.
If you need one, buy one that's good enough for you, and don't force everyone to pay :-)
The real issue here is, when image comes out from the video chip, it's in svideo format. It's already as good as it can get (without new gfx chip or such). C64 doesn't "downscale" it in any way (although it definitely adds some noise...)
Also the reason why only C128's native modes are available via RGBi. |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
Any news? |
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ruk
Registered: Jan 2012
Posts: 43 |
Got this reply from vesalia.de
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News on the C64 Reloaded straight from the horse's mouth. i.e. Individual Computers:
"The second prototype is still pending verification, and this will most likely remain that way while the USB module is on top priority. We'll do our best to show the second prototype of the C64 Reloaded at the Gamescom in August (http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/en/gamescom/home/index.php), but there's
currently no release date for production units."
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
Anyone know what the "VSP fix" consists of? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
whats up with this ? would be cool to have this new motherboard with the new case for a brand new c64c with a 1541u =) |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 427 |
I saw these boards at X'2014 too there were still prototypes though but looked very slick. |
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